Quiz Feedback answers in Camtasia 8

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When you add a quiz question in Camtasia 8, you now cannot record a feedback answer if the person gets the question right or wrong (this feature was avaialable in Camtasia 7.1). Now you only get the opportunity to see whether the person got the answer right or wrong.

I feel that removing this feature reduces the effectiveness of having a quiz. Do you plan to reintroduce this feature?
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In camtasia v7, I could create a quiz that would replay a relevant section if the student chose the wrong answer. In v8, it does not appear that I can do this. Is that true, and if so, can that functionality be added?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Learning from wrong answers on quiz..
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I am glad I noticed this loss of quiz functionality before I upgraded. I am pretty happy with v7.
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Hi djscholl1,

CS8 does support this but is dependent on the conscious and manual choices of the student. See:

http://www.techsmith.com/tutorial-cam...

Interestingly,, this is one of the key areas where the current quizzing function falls down but which could be remedied by Techsmith so easily.

For example, in some teaching and learning contexts the whole idea of asking students questions is to ascertain their understanding of a topic and, if that understanding is lacking, to provide them with feedback based on the quality of their answers. In turn, such feedback could be used to either clarify a misunderstood topic or to further reinforce the student's understanding of a topic.

At the moment the quizzing function in CS8 doesn't:

a) Provide the opportunity or choice to 'branch' -either manually or automatically - to another part of the video (or another video) with such branching being dependent on the quality of the student's answers.

b) Providing immediate feedback to the student e.g. a simple text string built into the question design at the point of creation whereby additional information on the correct answer could be supplied to the student.

In Adobe Captivate or Articulate these parameters can be set at the point of creation of the quiz. In CS8 you can create hotspots onscreen to provide similar functionality for the students but is not a very 'grown up' way of doing things.

If you are thinking of upgrading from CS7 to CS8 in the hope of accessing improved functionality in the quizzing then think again. However, in my opinion, the other enhancements/improvements of CS8 over CS7 make the upgrade well worth while.
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Amy Rossetti

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I really think Camtasia made a big mistake in removing this function. I want my students to be able to take brief quizes in order so they can check if they understand the material. The students need to be able to get feedback! It is one of the very basic things taught instructional designers and is essential to online learning.
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The lack of this feature is bad enough but the lack of recent response from Techsmith is unforgivable. Even if it was "we're not going to do what you're asking for for the following reasons ..." it would be better than this
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Amy Rossetti

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TechSmith,

Are you reading these posts? A response is overdue! If you remove essential functionality that worked, adding it back is not a new feature request! It is fixing a BIG mistake someone made.

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To those that put a +1 in their replies,

To vote, you need to click on the button in the initial post at the beginning of the thread.
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We are bringing on a new team member do more video training. It's a good chance for us to make a switch in software, mainly due to this problem. Does anyone have recommendations for other packages that have the proper quiz features and that are solid in other areas? We like Camtasia except for this step backward, but perhaps there are better things out there.

Thanks in advance for the suggestions!
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Hi Donny,

This aspect of CS8 has somewhat vexed me for a while!

Two excellent quiz options are available with Articulate and Adobe Captivate but they really are expensive and not worth the money.

I like Sol Robert's 'Quiz Press' (about $50 at solroberts.com) - works with Mac and PC. It has six types of questions, randomization of questions, encryption of answers etc. The quizzes are web based so you could have a link/hotspot from the CS8 video to an external quiz section etc. Bit of faffing around but does increase your quizzing options at reasonable cost....

Worth checking it out (even by Techsmith?) to see how it should/could be done ;-)
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I suggest that you look at Captivate, Articulate, Storyline and iSpring.
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In addition to Tigger's suggestion about Quiz Press, if you use WordPress, consider getting LearnDash's plugin for a simple course creation system. It has a highly sophisticated quiz module built in (with feedback etc.). You can put your videos in the course and follow each with a quiz. Some people are breaking down longer videos into 2-3 minute chunks. If you do this, the LearnDash option might work.
Their site: http://www.learndash.com/
You can see an example of a LearnDash course (no quizzes) at http://startupnegotiator.com/courses/...
Mike Palmer
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This feature is a must-have. My company is evaluating Camtasia and without this feature they are not willing to buy it.

The two key factors of a quiz are:

- being able to identify right/wrong answers
- provide feedback for those answers
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Quiz enhancements?.


We are considering using the embedded quiz features in Camtasia
Studio for review quizzes in self-study presentations. However, for
accreditation purposes, in addition to letting the user know whether the answer
they submitted was correct or incorrect we need to be able to
explain, for each multiple choice or true/false response, WHY that particular
response was correct or incorrect, with references either to time points in the video (ideally links) or to
page numbers in accompanying written materials.

All it
would take in the question editor is an additional field per response, e.g., "Reason" that upon rendering would NOT be shown on the initial question screen, but WOULD be shown on the subsequent confirmation screen after each response.


Also, rudimentary markup (bold, italics, underline, strikethrough) via HTML tags or rich text for both question and response/reason would be handy.

I don't think it's too much of a leap beyond what you are currently offering, but would increase functionality greatly.

Thanks!

EDIT: Being a new/trial user of Camtasia, I never realized that the functionality we need was actually once part of the product, but instead in a fit of rectocranial inversion, some pointy-head decided to remove it. How could Camtasia decide to remove such a CRITICAL component of educational feedback (not to mention a REQUIRED component for certain accreditation oversight processes)???

If this is an indicator of how the product's development is handled, I will be recommending that we NOT purchase the product.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Improving and Increasing Quizzing Functionality - Desired Options.


I agree with all the folks who've requested more robust quiz/survey features. This is a fantastic addition to the educational AND marketing functions of Camtasia. 

I'd like to see the ability for a survey participant to not only be able to check more than one item in a multiple-choice question, but also prioritize the checks.  For example, the question could be "Please check the top three issues you have with Word" and there are fields next to each item in which one may type a number.

I'd also like to see branching to another part of the quiz/survey based on the answer to a question.

I wholeheartedly agree with everyone who's contributed ideas to beef up this feature!

Thanks, Kim

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
I'd like the ability to have multiple quiz styles, or a way to create a custom look and feel.


I don't see any intuitive options to choose a 'look' for the quiz in the new camtasia studio 8. Am I missing something? Is there any way to customize this to match the branding of our content? We produce quite a bit of content, so it would be worth our trouble to make something look consistent with the rest of our design feel.

thanks.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Camtasia Quiz Options.


With so much of Camtasia being customisable I think the only thing that lets it down is the Quiz option which isn't!! In future versions will it be possible to change things like the quiz window size, font etc etc? I find I am doing the bulk of the work in Camtasia but then linking to other 3rd party apps for my quiz which offer more flexibility.
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Thank you all for your great ideas and suggestions for improvement to the quizzing options in Camtasia. I do not have an update at this time, but I will bring this to the product team and update this thread as soon as I have more information. Thanks!
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Jessie,

Thank you for resuscitating this thread.  It looks like it's languished in limbo for two years, with no feedback from TechSmith at all.

If quizzing is a feature, it should at least be a competitive feature.  Otherwise, it's an irritation at best and a reason to jump ship at worst.

Hopefully, the threads that you've merged into this one have not been consigned to the feedback graveyard, too.  ;-)

Best, Kim

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Jessie,

I have to admit that I'm puzzled why TechSmith continues to market Quizzing as a stand-out feature. Just received this Interactive Quizzing promotion and I was surprised at its low-level functionality in regards to feedback. I was certain that it couldn't possibly be that hamstrung, so searched these community pages and was made aware of the downward spiral in functionality. The market is aggressively moving towards personalized and adaptive learning and Camtasia is saddled with exactly the type of feedback Instructional Designers are trying desperately to flee. 

Jessie, we need you to press TechSmith to create a more robust quizzing feature that's worth an upgrade, rather than the feeling that the software is moving in the wrong direction.

Thank you!
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There are quiz features that were in previous versions of Camtasia that need to be put back.  It should be something easy for you to do and would help you keep and gain a lot of customers.
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Official Response
We are currently looking at a solution for quizzing across multiple TechSmith products. We recognize this very important function and will update this thread when we have more to share on our progress. In the meantime, please continue to give us your feedback on how quizzing will help you!
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There's not much more I can add to what others have already said about how feedback will help in the development of instructional media.  Along with custom feedback, a learner should be able to jump to the section on the timeline with the content they need remediation for. Version 7 was able to do this; however, once the remediated content finished, there was not a way to jump back to the next question.  The student had to scrub to the next question. This is not acceptable since that person may not even know there are more quiz questions to answer. 

I can only confirm what others have aptly said in this forum. Tthis is a serious issue for anyone developing eLearning using your otherwise wonderful tool.
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So, I've moved on from Camtasia, but I still get emails regarding the updates on this thread out of a morbid sense of curiosity for how poor Tech Smith support is....

It's great to see that after TWO YEARS of complete silence on this issue, someone from Tech Smith actually made a comment and states "We recognize this very important function".

Hahahahahahaha.....
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Why can't the functionality that was in Camtasia 7 be put into Camtasia 8 as part of an update? 
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I just wasted twenty minutes looking for the feedback function in CS8 which I KNOW was there is CS7. I just figured TechSmith hid it. I was dumbfounded to find this thread and discover that this critical function was removed from CS8.  I fully and emphatically agree with previous commenters that this is an essential feature for good instructional design.  Groups of faculty at my college are moving to a flipped classroom and I have been recommending Camtasia Studio as a good option, but I will be emailing them immediately and reversing my recommendation. We do our students a grave disservice if we do not tell them WHY their answer is wrong.  In my opinion, this is educational malpractice.  Thank goodness I have Articulate Storyline and can move to a platform that meets current educational needs.
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Sounds like a plug for Articulate Storyline, but I am very surprised as Tech Smith has always been so responsive to their customers.  Will this be available in the next version Tech Smith?
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We just started with Camtasia 8 and can't believe you can complete a course even if you've answered a quiz question incorrectly. Has this been fixed to anyone's knowledge?


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When is an update expected so you can display "Try again" or anything/something to that effect when the student answers incorrectly?
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People have been asking for that on the forums for 3 years so I wouldn't hold my breath.  I couldn't wait even a few months so I abandoned Camtasia as a means to do any quizzing and strictly use it for video integration into other eLearning programs that do quizzing better like Storyline and Captivate.

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