Quizzes Camtasia 2018 - HELP PLZ

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I created a quiz to be a knowledge check only. I used multiple choice and provided the responses when correct and what the right answer is when incorrect.

On the options I selected Score Quiz because if I don’t I do not receive the correct/incorrect option for the Learner.

I have been requested to use SCORM 1.2 and have the quizzing set to 0% because we just want to see if people were paying attention for these short vignettes. We want to record that they viewed the entire video so that is set at 100%.

When the SCORM 1.2 package is loaded into the LMS (SumTotal), because I have selected Score Quiz, it adds a score in the results/transcript, but I don’t want the score to show (as we don’t need them to retake it).

Is there a way I can set up the quiz and have it provide the correct/incorrect text but not actually provide a score when in the LMS? Just FYI when the Score Quiz de-selected, the LMS showed just Completed under the score column.

 Any assistance anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks :-)
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valarie.hansen

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BTW this is for Camtasia for Windows
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David Demyan

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For clarification, why do you need to set the quiz to score but not show? If I were attempting what you are, I would be happy with a completion registered in the LMS. And I believe that unless you are doing some fancy branching, when the course is taken, each knowledge check will be encountered and attempted by default.

I guess the short version of my question is, If you don't need to know the score, and if you know they had to have taken the quiz, why do you need that fact registered in the report?
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The reason i have it scoring quizzes is that needs to be set in order to have the feedback to the learner.  If i remove that, then if the person answers the question wrong, it doesnt tell them the right response.  They are just supposed to be knowkledge checks not an actual test.  Having the  feedback it what i want, but dont want the scoring.  Does that help?  Is there another way to do this?
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Ok, like a feedback layer. Let me ponder that and I will post more. Thanks for the answer.
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Truly appreciate the assist. Thanks. :-)
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Valarie, you have uncovered a hidden "feature" of which I was unaware. I built a quick course and included two Multiple Choice questions and Feedback. Camtasia does as you say, forcing the reporting of a score to the LMS even though I set it to zero. It's easy in most authoring tools to select course completion by viewing some percentage of the content without reporting the quiz score, enabling the use as true knowledge checks. But in Camtasia you can set the passing score percentage to zero and it still reports that to the LMS. I will raise this as a feature correction request with TechSmith and see where it goes. I think it would enhance the value of Camtasia as a video course creator if there were more SCORM settings, including the ability to turn off quiz score as a report item.
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Hi David

Thanks for responding.  I seem to be a "feature" magnet no matter the tool... LOL

Thank you for raising the feature corrrection request with TechSmith.  I agree with your more SCORM setting comment.  

I LOVE this tool and this is the first time I created training content and the videos came out nice. I'm sure there are many things I havent discovered yet to make my videos better but first time out of the gate, the audience and leadership love the results. 

Thanks again and I hope the ticket raised gets put through.  :-)
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The LMS we use has the option "Provide Course Grade". If it's not selected, the Grade would be empty.
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Hi there

I'm wondering if your answer here would involve adding captions a bit farther down the line on your timeline that would handle explaining the incorrect answers. Then simply configuring the quiz so that each incorrect answer goes to a different spot farther down the track where the right response is explained. 

My thinking is that if you took this approach, you could then avoid having to configure things to provide a score back to the LMS.

Cheers... Rick :)
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Thanks Rick.  I'll give that a shot as a work-around but it would be nice if Camtasia had knowledge checks as well as quizzing (basicly something you want scored and things you do not). 

Camtasia is such an AWESOME tool and so intuitive I just thought I was doing it incorrectly.  I've created 12 trainings with this tool already and this item was the only item I couldnt figure out on my own.  

Just a question, you say caption and just want to confirm you do not mean Marker and then how do i get the person back to the quiz once the read the response to the wrong answer?  Thanks again!
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Rick's suggestion would function using the Action drop-down and selecting "Jump to time." Using that option for individual questions would require an interactive button on the frames showing the remediation with a "Jump back to quiz" action. I am pretty certain the quiz would start over with question one after jump back. Also your zero score will still be reported to the LMS when selecting the SCORM reporting option, so I don't believe it would accomplish what we are looking for.

For clarification, if you want a Camtasia-created video course to operate in a SCORM environment, you must select "Report quiz results using SCORM." Otherwise, you just get a package of files that won't work in the LMS (no manifest). If you go that route, you may as well just upload a non-interactive video as a learning item and tack on a generic quiz from the LMS authoring environment.


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Hi David

Yes I have been using  "Report quiz results using SCORM." 

Thanks for letting me know about the Ricks idea and based on what you said it will not accomplish what I need.  It was a good idea though.

What do you think the chances are of TechSmith implementing a fix/option to handle this and possibly when?

Thank you.
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Valarie, here is what I posted as a feature request idea. I am a user and not a TechSmith employee, so I have no idea if or when it will be implemented (sorry):

In Camtasia, please add more SCORM functionality to replicate some of the options available from eLearning authoring tools. This would allow designers to be more creative in learning interactions in some very important ways.

Here are some additional functions that could be added to enrich Camtasia as an eLearning tool. 1. Change SCORM Reporting to allow selection of “track using quiz result” or “track using percentage of video viewed.” 2. Multiple quizzes per video and multiple or aggregate results reporting. 3. Allow author to select “Do not report quiz results to LMS.” 4. Allow selecting report status: Passed/Incomplete, Passed/Failed, Complete/Incomplete, Completed/Failed. 5. Consider adding a new quiz interaction type for surveys or non-scored quizzes (knowledge checks). It would be very similar (or identical) to the current quiz feature, but with the ability to not report results to the LMS. Note that setting the passing score to zero does not work to turn off reporting.
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Hi Valarie,

That is an interesting use case.  I think David's advice about setting the passing score to 0 makes sense in your case.  The other thing I was wondering if you can configure the SCORM module in the LMS to not score the video.

Ben
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Thanks David. I have had the score at zero and I really like the feature request you posted. Seems to cover it all so big Thank You!

Hi Ben

Thank you for responding.  I am working with our LMS group now to see if there is a way they can mask it or configure it not to show.  Hopeing it works.

If ya'll come up with some other great ideas I am open to them.  Thank you all for your assistance and brain power.  

Valarie
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Just a quick question since this was  mentioned in this thread, is there anything in the manifest that can be tweaked for these trainings so that there will be no score?

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I don't tweak the manifest file, per se. I often tweak the javascript and other files in the zipped SCORM package that includes the manifest. This is sometimes required for the vagaries of the LMS, but there are a million variations of what you could change and a million opportunities to create a SCORM package that will not be accepted.

For example, an earlier version of Storyline created a thumbnail--which was not used for anything at all--with a special character in the filename. Our SharePoint-based LMS rejects them every time, requiring us to delete that particular small image from the SCORM package whenever it occurs. Then the courses play flawlessly on the LMS.
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Thanks David.  I was hoping there was something else I can do besides turning off quizzing.  appreciate the assist and ideas. Thanks.