Request Features for Snagit Editor

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Hi I have just been working on a set of scans using the SnagIt editor to touch-up, clean-up and repair these scanned images. I appreciate having professional, easy to use pixel level editing tools for this project. The scans were B&W scans saved in the TIFF file format. Through this process I would like to make a couple suggestions for the SnagIt editor.

These TIFF files were huge files. Each scan was from 30 to 150 MB files. The images were from large format scans of pages up to 24x36 sheets at 300 DPI. Due to the original media I had TIFF images that were averaging 1090 x 7349 pixels in size.

Suggestion #1. While cleaning up edge noise I sure could have used an eraser tool WAY bigger than 50 pixels. Is there a reason why 50 pixels is the maximum size? I will try to attach a sample image to show you the scanned garbage around the perimeter I was trying to erase.

Suggestion #2. I didn’t really like the fact that I couldn’t deactivate the current editing tool. Because of the huge image file I was doing a lot of zooming and panning (very slowly in that image size I might add). I didn’t like navigating around with the “pen” or the “eraser” tool active. One time I accidently erased a stripe all the way across the image without knowing it. I would like to see a way to just return to the “mouse” tool, to know that no editing mode was active. I tried “escape” and kept looking for an OFF option.

Suggestion #3. During long periods of erasing It would have been cool to be able to lock the eraser too ON. My mouse finger got so tired of keeping that LMB held down tight for LONG periods of time.

The only problem I had (probably due to the file size/image size, was that the “Replace Color” tool would activate the current settings as soon as I selected the tool. But in order to use the color picker, I needed to see the “original colors” not the “previewed changes” colors. No matter how long I waited, the image would never revert back to the current colors as long as the tool was active, even without me pressing “apply”. That made it very difficult to “pick” the color I actually wanted to replace.

Suggestion #4. Maybe the replace color tool needs to have a “preview” button added, and not show the “previewed changes” until the user selects “preview”.

Thanks for considering!
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I'm not TechSmith or affiliated with them other than being an enthusiastic user. But I like your suggestions!

Curious why you didn't use the selection tool to do the large swaths? Because you are able to easily select areas way larger than the 50 pixel limit of the eraser.

Cheers... Rick :)
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Can I select a large area, and then erase? Users with more experience always have better tricks. I'll give that a try. Thanks for your suggestion Rick!!
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Indeed, you can. I like to use the freehand icon. Select what you want and press the delete key.



I'm also very fond of the new "Auto-fill" option. But if you select too near other stuff it can work against you.

Also, hopefully are also aware that if you need to pan around a zoomed in image, you can press Ctrl+Shift and the cursor transforms to a hand and you can then move to different areas of the image.

Cheers... Rick :)
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Oh, and another tip I use myself quite often. I regularly like to "flood fill" areas in order to make them the same color or to clean up pixels. And the paint bucket tool has a tolerance level that is often handy for that. But it depends on how different the colors are. If your fill color isn't all that different from the surrounding colors, that too can work against you. And thank ye gods for the undo function when I am using that aspect.
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Suggestions  that may help.

For
#1 as Rick suggests, making a selection and deleting would be quicker for larger areas.
You can set the deletion to fill with transparent or fill with the background color.

Click images to enlarge



#2 Depending how you have your toolbar arraigned you can use a keyboard shortcut to
switch out of  (in your case the eraser) to another tool.

The first 9 (nine) tools you put on your toolbar use the shortcut Ctrl + 1 thru 9



In my toolbar above I would just use Ctrl+5 to switch to the move tool and be out of the eraser tool.

#3 Don't really have a idea for that. Duct tape maybe?  :-)

#4  To reset the "Replace Color" tool so your image is back to the original
click on the X to reset. Then click the + sign to make your new color change.



:)
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I want to thank Rick for some great suggestions! It's really cool to find others willing to share their knowledge. If I had known how many hours this project was going to take, and if I had known all of you would be so quick to help, I would have yelled HELP a week ago. I mostly use Snagit to make software training videos for new CAD users, to show them tips and tricks. In this case the cemetery had 16 old paper maps that needed to be converted to digital format, and made into PDF's so that now they can print then, mark on them, and throw them away when they get beat up. Rick's explanation of freehand selection and then delete would have made life a lot easier. Hopefully I won't have to go into the photo restoration business. I prefer CAD thank you!
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Thanks Dubie for your tip on resetting the "replace color" tool. I did discover that, and you were right to post it because that is what worked. I was just puzzled because the tool lets you have several color replace/color swap custom choices saved within it. It seems that by just activating the tool, it wouldn't show a preview until you get done adjusting the settings you want. It was just my 2 cents. I'm all about your duct tape suggestion though because I thought I was going to end up in the hospital with carpal tunnel. Rick showed me I could just select the whole area and erase it all at once! Now I have to return this roll of duct tape.
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I am really impressed that you are using SnagIt to repair scanned images.  I too have been down the path or restoring cherished images from TIF scans af around 100MB from a 6 x 4 original

There are frequent discussions on here about the merits of making SnagIt a more complex image handler, which frequently result in a suggestion to use more appropriate tools for the job.  And I can't help but wonder whether that might apply here?

For my restoration work I used Photoshop Elements which an inexpensive and allegedly cut down version of Photoshop.  To be honest, it is so rich in functionality that you wonder what more Photoshop could offer the non-professional.  In particular it has a who gamut of tools specifically designed for restoring old and blemished images - far greater than anything SnagIt has or could hope to have, spot healing brush healing,dust removal - you name it.  I have repaired images that were in a shocking state.  And many of the tools relieve you of the frozen finger effect that comes from using the mouse so much.

The other big benefit of using Photoshop Elements is that you can create an adjustments layer on which all restoration is done (actually you could create several adjustment layers, but let's not overcomplicate things.)  The effect is just the same as working on the original but it's non destructive and, having waited an eternity for that massive scan to finish, it lets you preserve it warts and all so that if you mess up big time you can roll back or even start over.

Just my 2 cents

Paul
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I have to agree with all points you mention. Just the non-destructive ability alone is a must.

I can see for maybe a small quick fix to use Snagit but for serious restoration you need a editing program that has the true ability to highly massage (if you will) a image.

You sure could not do a restoration like this in Snagit.

Still a work in progress


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I probably needed better tools for this project, But photo editing isn't my focus. I appreciate the input, but wonder if its appropriate to promote other products here.

I was only stating what I felt would improve tools that are already in the program. If we tell developers what would be helpful to us, we might get it some day.

Sometimes its not what tools you have, its your skill with the tools you have. I accomplished a lot to recover paper documentation that was near being lost.

I appreciate SnagIt's versatility. I used what I had.







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Yeah, like I said, I was very impressed with what you achieved.  Blown away actually.  But, realistically, what you are asking for is firmly in the remit of the specialist photo packages, which is not SnagIt's core proposition.  I just want to set your expectations.
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Nothing wrong at all with using tools you are comfortable with.

As for TechSmith's view on suggesting other tools, I believe their core view is that they are happy if anyone participating here can help you solve a problem. In other words, it may seem a bit disingenuous to suggest other tools (and it would be if all any person ever did was to slam the TechSmith tool and always suggest a different tool) but the main goal here is to help solve the problems. 

For example, I will regularly mention Adobe Captivate over in the Camtasia forums when folks are asking for Camtasia to do something it doesn't do but I know Captivate does. Or does it better than Camtasia. ;)

Cheers... Rick :)