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The website says the latest version of Camtasia is compatible with Windows 7. However that is not strictly true as it will not work with a 32bit operating system. You can use version 8 instead however they won't offer a discount which is a bit naughty as the software is not cheap. I wouldn't mind if it was $30 or even $50 but not $200!
I decided to try the free trial anyway but it is a free version not a free trial as it has a watermark on it!
I don't want to support a company that is only interested in taking money and not the needs of its customers. I'm thinking of using Screencast-o-matic instead as that is only $18 a year. I probably won't even need it that long. Would you recommend this or any other software that is reasonably priced?
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As far as I'm aware, the free trial isn't really inhibited in any function other than the watermark. So you get to test all the things you would normally use.

Not sure why the dislike because of the watermark. Seems very reasonable to me that they would want to allow you the ability to use the software features, but not freely use what you created without advertising. 

I find it so odd how often I see so many folks wishing to reap the benefits of the hard work of others without paying for it. Developers have their own bills to pay and they occasionally like to eat too!

Soooo, once you were to use this software, wouldn't you be expecting to somehow be paid for the efforts you put into building the content you would create? How is that any different?

Cheers... Rick :)
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I think you missed my point. I'm not wishing to take advantage of others' work but a free trial should be that. Otherwise advertise it as a free version. 
Also if I don't get full functionality then it shouldn't be so expensive.
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I'm obviously missing something here. You were not charged a penny to test drive it. So how can you possibly make the clam it's not a free trial?

If it were a free version, it would not stop working after the trial period ends. Even though the output contains a watermark, the software is time bombed and will cease to function totally once the trial period ends.

You lost me on the last sentence. No functionality is reduced. I totally don't understand that last sentence. Sorry

Whatever you do choose to use, I do honestly wish you the best of luck.

Cheers... Rick :)
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I believe her point is this, TechSmith won't give her a discount on Camtasia 8 32bit.

She's got a valid point in my opinion. Camtasia 9 is the  better program between the two. There will be no more new features or maintenance releases for Camtasia 8. So it's a bit of a lose lose in that department.

So if you look at it realistically, Camtasia 8 isn't worth as much as Camtasia 9 by a long shot. The programs already 5 1/2 years old.

Helen, I pulled my recommendation for Corel Video Studio only because I realized after posting that Corel dumped 32 bit support as well. .
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It's kind of tacky to ask for recommendations for another product on another product's site.
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Since you'll be using Camtasia 8 anyway, use version 8.5.2 for the free trial, available on TechSmith's archive: http://www.techsmith.com/download/oldversions.asp?_ga=2.7592112.36557355.1516909291-559171489.151474...

That is the last version before the watermark.
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If that works, great.

But be forewarned that my own experience has been that the trials often sense the computer date. And even if the trial you installed has never been installed on a machine before, they report the trial has expired. I had that recently happen with version 7. :(

Fortunately, I had a key that worked for that version so I could actually launch it.

Cheers... Rick :)
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The computer will detect the trial because of a registry key. But OP can still use Camtasia 8 until the trial expires. Then they can decide to either buy or move to a different editor

(or reinstall Windows and use Camtasia again I guess, but no one has the time to reinstall all their content just for another trial)
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Hello there Will Findlay

Interesting question, is Helen's inquire tacky?

Yeah, it probably is to some degree.
Asking people that have been there and done that is smart as well.It's optional if you want to assist her or not.
 
It's tacky of me. Failing to acknowledge that Camtasia is the best screen recorded I've ever used.I've used them all."I think"
However, if your running a 2 or 3 core AMD CPU it can suck the life out it.I mean, If you want to record yourself editing video or some other CPU intensive task your going to run into problems.
So it may not suit your needs.

I often wonder how many trial users come to this forum and see "Audacity" being Praised as the go to tool for audio when using Camtasia.
Because it's Free, because Camtasia's Audio Tools are Sub Par, Problematic and a pain to work with.

Yeah, I often wonder how many sales are tanked over literately 100's of  "Just Use Audacity" posts. 

That's a terrible first experience.Learning a new program is difficult enough. Finding out the audio hardware is rejected by all including Champions only makes matters worse . "This all falls on TechSmith"

Could recommending Audacity be tacky? "I vote Yes"
And far more damaging than any advice anyone would offer Helen.IMO

This is a user to user forum. I'm pretty sure that's how they are intended to work.

Regards,Joe
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A user forum hosted and paid for by Techsmith.
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 I also acknowledged that it was the best screen recorder I've ever used.

 I should have mentioned Camtasia 8 for Windows was a $299 program and buying Camtasia 9 and settling for 8 was kind of a bargain at $199.Plus, when the day comes that she gets a new computer.Hopefully soon, she has Camtasia 9 to install on it

Nobody else bothered to mention that.
Not even TechSmith.

She might change her mind and purchase Camtasia armed with that information.

She might not appreciate being referenced to as tacky and blow off Camtasia for life.

Food for thought.     

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WRT the usage of Audacity for editing audio, I might agree with you if TechSmith advertised Camtasia as a good all around audio editing application. I don't think I've ever seen them do that. 

Sure, audio often plays a large role in creating videos. But the ability to edit audio doesn't seem to be the main focal point of even the great and powerful Adobe Premiere Pro, no?

Seems that the recommended workflow for the Adobe product is to... drum roll here... use Adobe's OTHER product that actually IS a genuine dedicated audio editing product known as Audition? Or is that Sound Booth? 

I think I've seen the TechSmith folks advise that whatever we can do to assist the customers is viewed as helpful and not tacky. For example, Quizzing is a weak spot for Camtasia. And you often see me advise folks to go kick the tires on Captivate if they really want to get into better quizzing.

Now if one just barges into a forum and claims Camtasia sucks for this or that reason and somebody please just tell me a software that I can use for free that is just as good as Camtasia because I don't wanna buy it. I consider that type of post to be very tacky. Kind of along the lines of being invited to a party, arriving and immediately telling the host their snacks are sub par and what's the deal with the decor? It sucks! It's just not polite.

But hey ho, as you said yourself. Largely it's user to user here. But we do see TechSmith folks popping in here and there to assist too. And that's nice when that happens.

Cheers... Rick :)
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Well Rick,
 Audition is more robust than Premiere Pro as it should be. You can do some highly specialized audio with it. It's not designed strictly for video.
 
However...............
Premiere Pro has about 50 Audio filters available natively these days.
Pretty much every filter Audition offers. Here they are, the Obsolete one are still listed. I didn't open that category up for viewing. As it was, I  un-docked the panel just to show all the filters and I'm on a 1440 tall monitor these days.

Premier pro handles 7.1 Chanel audio but all I had was a 5.1 Chanel sample to toss in the Source monitor for viewing purposes.



You can skip using Audition 100% in Premiere Pro these days.
I don't know why you keep trying to bash Adobe to defend TechSmith.

 I mention Adobe's functionality regularly because I would like to see TechSmith elevate themselves towards Adobe standards.
    
I stand by what I said.

When people who are new to video editing and Camtasia, are running the trial version and come to this forum.

See that most members suggest they will need to learn advanced audio skills and a program called Audacity to be pleased with their audio.

A 2nd and entirely different program.

They won't care if it's free.

It's not an easy program to learn if you've never done it before.
Sure you can dedicate the hours. Watch You Tube videos, go through that trial and error learning process until you figure it out.

But you can't candy coat it either. It's not a bright selling feature for Camtasia.

Like I say, TechSmith has had years to Improve there audio tool set and so most of this falls on them.

When you pat Audacity on the back it doens't help matters whether you like it or not.  That's just the way it is.
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"You can skip using Audition 100% in Premiere Pro these days. 
I don't know why you keep trying to bash Adobe to defend TechSmith."

LMAO - Not bashing Adobe at all.  But you openly said in your very next comment:

 I mention Adobe's functionality regularly because...

So I use Adobe as examples when replying. Then again, with our new reality of political division, I do understand how many feel something is being bashed when in reality it hasn't been. ;)

You said: "I would like to see TechSmith elevate themselves towards Adobe standards."

I see this as effectively saying, yeah, Kia's are great, but they just aren't a darn Lamborghini. Why can't Kia just get their act together and be more like Lamborghini?

And therein lies the issue, no? I mean, those are two vastly different audiences. And vastly different companies. Not that they try and compete, but it's a classic David VS Goliath scenario.

Out of idle curiosity, why do you choose to use Camtasia and SnagIt? I mean, since you are always taking things into PhotoShop or since you are a Premiere Pro user, why do you use Camtasia since you are a power PP user? It's not a criticism of any kind. At least that's certainly not how I intend it. I'm honestly curious.

Cheers... Rick :\
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Well Rick, you asked so..............

You don't bash Adobe you say?
Sure, audio often plays a large role in creating videos. But the ability to edit audio doesn't seem to be the main focal point of even the great and powerful Adobe Premiere Pro, no?

 
What do you call it then? Warm thought provoking rhetoric.
Do you use language like this regarding TechSmith? I can answer that. No you don't.

 Seems that the recommended workflow for the Adobe product is to... drum roll here... use Adobe's OTHER product that actually IS a genuine dedicated audio editing product known as Audition? Or is that Sound Booth?

Not feeling a user friendly Adobe  embrace here.

If I wanted to I could dig up more snarky remarks you've directed at Adobe in other posts. You've made plenty of them.

When I showed you the image above. Demonstrating that Adobe has added pretty much every audio filter, equalizer, etc to  Premier Pro that  Audition has. Making Premier Pro as powerful as Audition in so many ways.
You looked right past that and wrapped your Camtasia loving arms around TechSmith.   Brought up a Kia's and Lamborghini's argument instead.

Product functionality is all that matters to the consumer. They don't care who loves/doesn't love TechSmith.

Camtasia's audio tools need some improving just to be adequate.  To think otherwise and do nothing.  Is to let customers slip through the cracks.IMO
Theres absolutely no excuse for not having a audio level meter. That's as basic a feature as there is.

Why do I use Camtasia? Premiere Pro doesn't record the Screen. Camtasia also has a great pan and zoom tool. For computer screen recorded videos. It's my go to tool.

Why do I use SnagIt. It Snags Screen Shots and I have custom profiles that suit my needs.I even edit a few in SnagIt.

Gee, I use Camtasia and SnagIt for what they were designed for.Imagine that.

Regards,Joe

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I use Adobe CC for non-desktop video and their are times I use Audition to work on audio. It’s still a much better environment for editing audio than Premiere even with all of what Adobe has done to bring over equivalent features.
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I agree.Audition is better for editing audio than Premiere Pro.

Premiere Pro doesn't morph into Audition's User Interface for editing.
I think about 90% of CC subscribers have the whole package. You can just dynamically link  audio into Audition anyway. I know I do.

 However, If you are one of those rare birds that only uses PP. You can deal with all your audio woes within PP.

Premier Pro can save filter settings as presets, so you can streamline voice overs and a lot of your audio work down to a few clicks.

Regards,Joe