Search for Moved Media

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Problem/Background: So occasionally, I sometimes need to move Media. Lately, it's been a situation where I was not using best practice with file/folder organization and had all my screen recording clips in one large media folder, and now I want to organize them in separate project media folders. 

When I do that and I go back to the Camtasia project, Camtasia understandably doesn't know where to find the new media because ti's moved. 

Solution: I'd love a "search for" functionality where I could point it towards a hard drive location to search, and it'd automatically update the file path in the media bin once it found the media asset with the same name. 

Benefits of Solution: Freedom to move/better organize clips without having to worry about being able to find the new location of the moved clips. 

Joe/Ed/Rick/et al: Please let me know if I'm completely out of my depth, and this is existing functionality in the program. 
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Hi Paul!

Personally, I would perhaps hope for a different "solution". Bear with me on this.

What would seem a nice approach to me, would be to have the Media Bin behave in a similar way to the Windows File Explorer. And in that vein of thought, allow organizing things right from the Media bin itself.



It seems to me that this would totally eliminate any need to pop out to the Windows File Explorer to organize the project. You would do all your organizing and creating folders and suchlike, right from inside the Media Bin and Camtasia would just know exactly where everything was.

I'm not sure how others would feel about that approach, but it seems that it would work incredibly well for my own workflows!

Cheers... Rick :)
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If all the media on your computer were used strictly for Camtasia projects. It could work.

If you use multiple programs, moving media around could de-link and break the project files for everything else.
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Joe, 

Great callout, per usual. Is Rick's solution how APP works? I know the bins have a media explorer.

Not for nothing, but I wonder how many people that use APP for their video editing needs still use Camtasia? I'm reasonably sure you're one. 
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PP lets you create as many folders, sub folders, as you wish.
The media is accessed from the original file location.

This is how modern video editing programs function.At least the ones I've used, and I've tried the bulk of them.

I don't know if your aware of this or not? As of Camtasia 2018.Anything you place in its library creates a new file.

Cam 9 and previous versions let you link content to the Library.

So they finally created a library with folders and sub folders in 2018. Multiple Library's can be created. Yet everything placed in it can create a duplicate file.

I used to use the Library for certain media files, hoping for folders and a system to organize content.
I could store media in the library and delete the original content. But I'm not about to delete original files, then link all my other programs files to Camtasia's library. Thats 100% backwards to me.
They fixed the library, and broke it at the same time.

PP has some file re-linking capabilities, but if you've moved a lot of stuff around. It won't find them for you.
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Makes total sense that PP would not be able to find files that were moved outside of PP. There would be no way for it to know they were moved.
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I guess I'm glad that I never bothered all that much with Camtasia's libraries...cause that duplicate file thing sounds awful. 
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Getting a list of all the media (file types) on any internal or network drive is easy enough. Putting their full files names in a list:  "item1" "item2" is most easily done by excel.

I did a tutorial on my Duplicate File Finder (DFF) a couple years ago. Although you don't want to delete anything the same program can be used enumerate / list all your media files. With one or two tweaks of code, you'd have your list ready for importing to Camtasia.

If your interested watch this first:
https://www.experts-exchange.com/videos/6481/How-to-find-and-eliminate-duplicate-files-on-your-Windo...

The Spreadsheet and program are more up-to-date here:
SS:   https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FtCyW3qhloNOUQzR9gDfyj0WiqTKB_9J
EXE:  https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AuR2Pi8uc2VLXWxCOIQGPjdxVrfu2eVX

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Nice work, Ed. It's super cool that you coded this from scratch.

As far, as this being a solution, I guess this could be used to find the file in question to help make searching from the media bin for the broken file easier? 
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With just a little tweak here and there, it could easily manage all your media files and projects. Just needs an imagination to get it moving.
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Great discussion everyone. Just to throw a monkey wrench in the "automatic search" request: 

I create a lot of videos that use assets from all over the web like logos, executive photos, product photos. Long ago, I would rename every asset as it came in: Acme_logo_blue_large.png. These would be easy to find.

Then I got lazy. Now assets seldom get renamed, which means there are lot of duplicate names. I just searched my disk and found 436 files or folders with the string "logo" in their name. Take a look:



Yup, lazy. The solution I've adopted is one folder per project, with local Asset and Audio and Archive folders in each. Yes, there is duplication. Hard disks are under $40 for a 1 Terabyte drive and dropping.

Automatic finding or relinking might be welcome iff and only if it is optional.


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Hi Dave, 

Really appreciate the insight and perspective. I definitely agree that Camtasia is best when it gives you a choice, rather than making it for you. 

I, too, found the one folder/one project approach the best, but I came to that realization after making several projects, and I think the solution I'm seeking is how to quickly update broken media. 

I'm not sure what the best solution is. 
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if in doubt ... go "old school"

How To Locate Missing Media Files 2019-12-17
https://www.screencast.com/t/6T337bqf

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Yeaaah, can't access screencast.com at work, can you bullet-point your approach?
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bottom line ...

if required, copy missing file name from project file [open it in Notepad++]

use Windows find to locate file [helps if all media files have unique names]

back in Camtasia, with project open, use update media to bolt-in missing file from its current location

save/zip for safe keeping