1) using remove a color is long and laborious, and doesn't get the right results when the greenscreen has varying shades of green
2) need better functionality like Feathered Edges, and general tolerance algorithm for "overall green detection"
what you should be seeking is improved selection tools. It’s not that Chroma Key doesn’t work. Because it works great as shown here in Premier Pro. It’s just that it is a video editing filter and not a photo editing filter.
If SnagIt’s fill tool is set to transparency. You can play around with the tolerance slider. And make multiple selections to remove as much as the green screen as possible. This will not give you feathered edges or a clean line. I’m afraid this is about the best tool currently available in SnagIt’s arsenal.
That being said, I’ve been a Photoshop user for many years. When you want to extract a person from an image you do this using selection tools. The more sophisticated/developed the tool is. The better the results.
When it comes to functionality. SnagIt is currently miles away from reaching that plateau, and may never reach it.
Don’t misunderstand me, I’m not trying to poke holes in your rubber raft and sink your idea.” So to speak” I just think it’s likely your grow old, waiting for this functionality come to SnagIt.
That being said. There’s an online photo editor called Photopea https://www.photopea.com/
it’s a cross between Photoshop and less than Photoshop. What’s nice about it is you don’t have to install anything on your computer like other programs. So you can use it online at work if you are restricted from installing anything on your computer. You use the quick selection tool to select yourself. There are a lot of tutorials on YouTube to teach you how to use Photoshop’s quick selection tool. I suggest you watch the ones for Photoshop CS6 or older.
Then you move to a rather disappointing refine Edge tool to complete your selection. I call it disappointing because it has very few controls. However, it does allow you to feather the edge and use a brush tool to clean up the edges. In the image below I placed myself on a black background to complete the selection on the right.
In this final image I threw a weather map behind me for the heck of it. Just so you can see a final result. It’s less than ideal but it is free. There are photo editors like gimp that are free. But you do have to download and install them to your computer. https://www.gimp.org/
that’s all I got, Joe
Yes, there is another approach (as you called out) and that is actually called rotoscoping (if I'm not mistaken). The BEST in the market place for that action (on video at least) is Mocha Pro - from FXHome - the same people who bring you PhotoKey (which DOES have awesome chroma key capabilities for photo editing). If you really want good roto-scoping (ie: magical object selection / cut / paste) then that's a whole different set of mathematics. It can be just as good if not better than chroma keys.
However, I wonder if Snagit would ever have that functionality either... It has something called "magic selection tool" - but that's a very poor mans implementation (rudimentary my dear Watson) compared to true rotoscoping selections.
Your result is actually pretty good! but your green screen is also "good" - no lines, no shadows, not a lot of disparate green colors to worry about.... Most people "can't touch that".... when it comes to their own environments and green screens.
Just thought I'd pass along a suggestion that I'm sure you've heard before. Would LOVE to see it (either chroma or rotoscope or both)... just a shame that you think they won't build it.
Which by the way, I'd be happy to PAY for a pro edition that "contained" the algorithms?? Or better yet, partner with FXHome, setup an API and allow their Plugins to be utilized with Snagit.. now THAT sounds like a plan eh?
Thank you kindly,
This guy wrote his own windows app, and it's reasonably priced! it does a phenomenal job with even the worst GreenScreen backgrounds... Why not just Buy his IP and embed his algorithms in Snagit??
Gotta say - his chroma key competes with some of the better programs out there...
Ultimately I settled on PhotoKey Pro.... with GreenScreenWizard a close second for what I needed to do.
Dan, are you talking here about SnagIt video recording or basic static image manipulation using SnagIt?
If it's the SnagIt video recording, I'd personally be shocked to see TechSmith make any effort to add this to SnagIt, as this would be one enticement for folks to upgrade to SnagIt's younger sibling Camtasia.
If it's for basic image manipulation, I'd agree with Joe's estimation that you are really looking for better selection tools.
Cheers... Rick :)
I do both: video chroma and photo chroma key, so I need both solutions. Camtasia does work fairly well with this, but Snagit has nothing for this.
Except of course: "color replace" which is irritating to say the least, and takes forever to run.
Again, yes - looking for better selection tools (ie: my discussion on rotoscoping - which could be construed as magic select)
Sorry I submitted in the wrong place... Admin, can you move the thread please?
There are reasons for seeking: Better Chroma Key functionality AND improved selection tooling - they are two different and distinct things. In fact, Mocha (for video) can actually rotoscope different objects from the frame, not just the human figure. Removing an object from a photograph (like magic selection) would require sophisticated algorithms.
Again, Happy to hear postive feedback on this, and NO - Snagit has no "chroma key" functionality, that is my original issue.... Yes, Chroma Key works in Camtasia - fairly well.