I've been using SnagIt since I can't actually remember. I like change, and I always update when a new version is made available.
We're all now well used to Ribbon style UIs with Microsoft and CAD packages.
Why would you make such a change to the UI for SnagIt 13 though ! It's just terrible !
I don't want to switch between Effects and Properties, I want them all to be available on demand.
And I had to pay for this upgrade !!!
The Properties tab is where you can change the properties or select quick styles for any of the markup tools. You can also customize the toolbar across the top by clicking More > Customize Toolbar. You can add any of the effects you use frequently to the toolbar, for ready access. (See this tutorial for more on customizing the toolbar.)
In Snagit 12, you had to switch between the Tools tab (for markup tools and quick styles) and Images tab (for effects). They weren't visible at the same time.
All in all, this new interface should save you clicks. Feel free to share more details about your workflow if that's not the case for you!
I probably could have explained things a bit better, just couldn't believe why you'd done what you'd done, and I needed to submit a frustration.
With the Ribbon UI, "everything" was at the top of the screen, as it is with many other applications that I use day-in-day-out. Why would you change that behaviour?
I was able to easily mark-up my images, add content, then add an effect, all from the Ribbon UI at the top of the screen
Yes, I still have the mark-up options at the top (centre) of the screen, but I now have to go to bottom-right or top-left to switch to Effects.
Another comment; why make all of the icons so small? With a high-res, wide-screen monitor, I'm having to drag the mouse all around the screen.
I will get used to the new interface but the ribbon was better.
- Allow you to use tools and effects at the same time
- Make the interface initially more approachable
- Promote and support customization of tool placement
- Expose more of the power of Snagit, while not coming off as overwhelming
- Put us in a better place to scale the UI as we add tools, effects, and other features
We refined this with several betas over the last year and a half with a mix of new and existing users. And it got great reviews. I, too, like the ribbon for certain tasks, but it wasn't meeting the needs of a majority of our customers for the reasons above. More details below if you’re interested.
Quick pro-tip: In Snagit, on Windows, you can hit Ctrl+[Number at the top of your keyboard] to switch between the tool slots in the toolbar. That coupled with customization that Daniel mentioned, is a pretty great gain to efficiency.
That all said. We’re always interested in what we can do to make things easier.
So far, I’m hearing that there is excessive mouse movement to switch between tools and move to the properties. Which do you all find yourself using more? Quick styles, properties, or a mix?
Some further explanation of why that changes were made:
Allow you to use tools and effects at the same time
Like Daniel mentioned: In Snagit 12, you had to switch between the Tools tab (for markup tools and quick styles) and Images tab (for effects). They weren't visible at the same time.
Make the interface initially more approachable
The interface came off to new users as complex and they would abandon Snagit entirely.
Promote and support customization of tool placement
Previously with the ribbon, you could customize it with the Quick Access Toolbar. But the buttons were second class citizens. They were tiny 16x16 pixel buttons at the very top of the Editor. And we had reports and saw people using those throughout their day and not using any of the rest of the ribbon. So it was 95% wasted space for them. So we better supported customization by allowing you to add/remove/reorder tools, menu items, effects, and share destinations on the toolbar.
Expose more of the power of Snagit, while not coming off as overwhelming
The ribbon required a lot of exploring to find features. There was a lot of functionality hidden in dropdowns. That gave us two problems: users weren’t being as successful as they could be because they didn’t know what they were missing and we had others that weren’t buying Snagit because they didn’t know what they were missing. By exposing more properties in the side panels, we saw a marked increase in discoverability and long term use. So that was a success.
Put us in a better place to scale the UI as we add tools, effects, and other features
By adding more tools to the Tools tab on the Ribbon, we lose space for the quickstyles and other properties. This just wasn’t going to be scalable going forward. And breaking up tools into separate tabs was going to exacerbate the discoverability problem and be far less efficient.
Please review the comments listed by paying customers above and take them seriously! I echo their complaints and strongly dislike the new Properties layout (I'm refraining from using the word "hate", but not by much). I also posted a similar post below due to the lack of a comprehensive Color Palette in addition to the poor Properties window mentioned above:
With the version 12 ribbon, the user could simply click a high level menu item, such as Fill, and quickly select colors directly below it. Then selecting Text, and making a similar change was effortless. Now, the user must first select Fill at the top of the screen, scroll to the Properties menu at the far right to select one of the few colors available (very frustrated that most of the standard Color Palette is gone!), then scroll back to the top of the screen to select Text, then back to the Properties menu on the right again to make changes... I find myself wasting a lot of time in these mouse scrolls to make "simple" changes that were logical in version 12.
Unfortunately, the customizations that you mention above are not helpful. The standard user wants to make quick changes from a ribbon, without back and forth mouse movements. The vast majority of us are not advanced programmers and I feel the base audience has been missed with v 13.
Yes, several people pointed out the fact that they paid for an upgrade expecting new features, but not expecting something as pivotal as the Ribbon to be removed. Everyone has an opinion on this feature which could be debated for a long time. However, I would urge TechSmith to keep the Ribbon for those who still want it and allow others to hide it (similar to the MS Office approach). This would keep both parties happy and allow SnagIt to evolve in either direction, as needed.
Anyway, thanks for the post. These kinds of debates stimulate ideas and help make SnagIt better in the long run!
I may be wrong but at first glance
- elbow arrow - regretfully it is still missing
- Ruler - still not available
Quick Access Toolbar - assume in v13 these should be added to the 'normal' toolbar
which may become too crowdy and probably, when the editor window is smaller,
some of the buttons may 'disappear'.
Maybe add the same, smaller (v11) symbols under 'Misc' ? (Customize Toolbar, at the bottom)
and maybe also add 'pipe symbol' ( | ) as separator.
One output folder for all captures
Regretfully it is still not possible to -optionally- assign 1 output folder for -all- profiles,
e.g. \Catalog where all the output will be landing. Meaning, when a user has 15-20 or
more profiles, he/she has to assign the folder to the profile one-by-one.
One can relocated the Editor Library (Editor->Preferences-tab: Library), why not have
the same option for default save folder, or allow the library folder to be the default safe as
folder. The library itself is stored in a subfolder there \Datastore\
Am happy to see though that it is possible to assign a 'global hotkey' for all profiles,
which I believe is a major improvement over v12.
Keep up the good work!
In addition to my initial concern that the UI changes are a backward step, I'm now also faced with the following issues...
SnagIt 13 no longer provides the “standard” Windows Cursors by default, rather they're just some generic cursors.
I can no longer turn off anti-aliasing when creating text ... that’s a HUGE issue as I can no longer create custom images based on any screen capture that contains text. Quite often, I need to replace existing text with "my" text, but have it look exactly like the original.
The original color palette for objects has been replaced with just a few basic colors. That might not be so bad if it allowed the saving of “preferred” colors.
Maybe TechSmith should try and create some alternative skins, including some retro skins ... :-)
Nowadays people often have 24" screens or larger, so no reason to make it all so 'tiny'.
v11 wasn't tiny either.
"Quick pro-tip: In Snagit, on Windows, you can hit Ctrl+[Number at the top of your keyboard] to switch between the tool slots in the toolbar. That coupled with customization that Daniel mentioned, is a pretty great gain to efficiency."
So we could put Hotkey that we want?
To any tools?
inclusive all F.... F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, F6, F7, F8, F9, F10, F11, F11, F12.
inclusive all Num 0, Num 1 , Num 2, Num 3, Num 4, Num 5, Num 6, Num 7, Num 8, Num 9, Num*, Num /.
Any we want?
Can be done? - Mr.Chris Larson
Snagit 14: Button Fast "Customize Toolbar" Besides "More" | Button Quick, Fast, Easy access "Customize Toolbar"