Make SNAGIT for Linux

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I tweeted this question and your folks there said to ask it here, so: Has TechSmith given any consideration to porting SNAGIT to Linux? I know I'd sure purchases a license if it were supported there; I use SNAGIT Windows and Mac now and would LOVE to have it on Linux (like Slickedit, Understand C, Beyon d Compare, Komodo and a bunch more tools I use who've ported to Linux/Unix).
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  • hopeful you'll consider my request.

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Glacius

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David Young is correct. Linux has a reputation for having the majority of users who dislike the idea of paying for software. Whether or not that's true or how true it is is irrelevant; the perception is there and it influences people's decisions.

Like I said before, until the Linux community's attitude change (most likely never), the commercial software companies will never view Linux as a viable profit platform for application development.
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David Young

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This is just a simple question to highlight what for-profit companies like Techsmith face with people who like Linux and claim to pay for software on Linux.

I would be surprised if 50% of you have ever donated a single dollar to the folks developing Libre(Open) Office that is installed most likely on every single one of your machines. Yet they ask for donations to continue development. Using LO has saved you hundreds of dollars in using a mainstream product like MS Office. So tell me how much have you donated to LO?

Techsmith isn't stupid. You save 100's on LO and never donate crap to them. Why would Techsmith think you would line up for their tools?

Sorry Linux guys but actions speak louder then words.
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Yes, actually, this "Linux guy" not only donates cash, but time as well (and at $95/hr when I consult, that's quite a lot). I'm "into" Mageia Linux (a "fork" of Mandriva").

e.g.: Look for "Martin Turner": http://www.mageia.org/en/thank-you/
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David Young

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Md you are a very small minority of people out there however. It's cool you do this. However most people on Linux, users not developers, don't and that's why the For-profit business model for Linux comes apart. You can find exceptions to almost any rule but what is the norm? Techsmith can't sell 100 copies a year to the few that would pay and make this work.

I don't work for Techsmith and I don't have their sales figures but I doubt that they measure their Windows sales in hundreds. Nor could they keep their doors open for very long if they did.
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Simon Davies

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Having had a chat with a couple of other Linux guys (not a noobie like me) they all say that the general idea of getting something for free every time is changing, infact I was told to just look at the Humble Indie Bundle for people willing to spend money on software. I also asked whether people would purchase software if it offered more than the free editions and the simple answer was Yes.

The days of all Linux people wanting something for nothing is changing, with more people moving away from the MS platform for one reason or another (Windows 8 I am looking at you here!!) I think that there will be a larger uptake in developers realising that there is a market for their software on platforms other than MS and Apple.

I for one would still love to see Camtasia and Snagit on Linux and hope in the future that Techsmith decide to go down that route as well.
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chevex

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I would love to have Snagit on Ubuntu. I would easily pay for this software if it was available on my platform of choice.
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Niclas Horn

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solution, cant you do a windows pack with needed DLL files and so on? so we eazy can install it and run it on Wine? i have done this on my Linux MINT 13, works great but took some time to copy needed files from windows.
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Snagit is a great tool which I have been using for a number of years. However, I have had to migrate to a Linux platform on my laptop. Is there any plans to make Snagit usable under Linux?

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Snagit under Linux.
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lboyd123

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As Open Source Software continues to be common place - are you going to support any Linux Distributions with Snag-IT? Great application....love to use it on Linux.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Linux Distribution?.
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Those open source software you speak of are generally freewares. I hope you don't mean that SnagIt should be open source because Techsmith has no intention to make SnagIt open source and from a business point of view, commercializing an open source software is not a good business practice.
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Seems like there is a false claim by some that linux users are not likely to buy software. I don't think this is a valid observation, at least not in this forum. I think those folks that are here already paid for a licence. I did. But now I want to use a different OS, but that has nothing to do with my willingness nor unwillingness to buy licence.

One poster mentioned "Humble Indie Bundle", and that is one place to see what is going on. BTW I also bought a bundle there.

To buy and to donate are two different motivators and cannot be assessed in the same way. One asks for honesty, the other asks for love :-)
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Damon Rogoff

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Seems like there is a false claim by some that linux users are not likely to buy software.

Tony Camuso's so-called false claims is more convincing than yours. Why? He is a Linux developer so there is credibility to his claims.
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Tony Camuso

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> Seems like there is a false claim by some that linux users are not likely to
> buy software.

Whoa! I said they were averse to it, didn't say that they would not pay. As a Linux desktop user, I would be glad to pay for Camtasia on Linux. Just that there are far fewer Linux desktop users than Windows or Mac desktop users. And Linux is NOT monolithic, like Windows or Mac-OS. There are Fedora-based and Debian-based Linux distributions, just for starters. There is more than one desktop - Gnome, KDE, XFCE, to name just three. There is a struggle over the direction of Linux desktops, with many users unhappy about Gnome-3.

Development and integration testing a product with such complex requirements as Camtasia at this time may not be a good business venture given the numbers of users that are actually willing to pay more than $200 for one software package.

Most Linux software developers provide source code that can be built from scratch on the Linux platform of your choice. Of course, there are dependencies on other software packages that must be installed first for the package to function, or even to link correctly, so source code providers often provide a "configure" script to determine the presence of what's needed to build the software and to advise the user of any missing dependencies.

Proprietary software developers are not going to provide source code for you to build, edit, or share, as they are not open source by definition.

One successful proprietary developer that migrated a sophisticated product (Ultra-Edit) from Windows/Mac to Linux is IDM (http://www.ultraedit.com/). I have copies of their software for both Windows and Linux. Having started out as a Windows-based developer, I became quite accustomed to Ultra-Edit and its capabilities and was happy to pay for a Linux copy. Though I use VI and cscope in most routine editing, when I need the power of something like Ultra-Edit, I'm very glad to have it available.
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Hey guys, I personally think its completely ridiculous for snagit to not be supported on Linux. How hard is it really? After some months of realizing these guys aren't going to port over to Linux, and looking at how terrible Ubuntu's defaults are, I started building my own. Here's all you need to build your own:

screenshot: xwd -root -out 0.xwd && convert 0.xwd 0.png
screen record: avconv -f x11grab -s 1440x900 -r 25 -qp 0 -b 4000k -i :0.0 -c:v libx264 -pre:v libx264-veryfast -s 960x600 -y /home/jbud/Videos/0.avi

want to select region? use xrectsel
show the region you're recording? -show_region 1
follow your mouse? -follow_mouse centered
notification of screenshot/recording: notify-send 'screenshot' 'snapped a shot'

My scripts are under development still, if you're interested in getting the end result send me a message in a few weeks or so and I'll be glad to share :)
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Chuqui

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Congratulations! I'm interested in your development :)
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JB Braendel

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I'm glad to see some interest in this :)

I've finished the remaining pieces and uploaded the repository here: https://github.com/Jbudone/utilities

No implementation of region selection (since I probably won't use it myself), but if you or anybody else is particularly interested in this feature then I might add it in there. That goes the same for automatically uploading images/videos into your online account (like what Snaggit had). Also if there are any issues, please make a note of it on the repo; and if you have any particular requests for features, leave them here or send me an email and they'll go into consideration. Its an extremely simple script, but its a lot better than the defaults provided on Ubuntu imo. Enjoy :)
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Jacob Nordfalk

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Thanks, JB, I'll try this out.
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Steve Foerster

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I love Snagit on Windows, which I use at work. If Snagit were available on Linux I would gladly pay to be able to use it at home. It's much, much better than the alternatives currently available on Linux.

On the other hand, I do recognize the economies of scale may never make this practical.
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I would like to a see a lot more of the programs like SnagIt ported to a Linux environment. As a professional IT consultant and network engineer I dual boot my two laptops between Ubuntu and Win7 Pro by necessity.

I have both laptops in docking stations and have run my primary workstation using Ubuntu since January of 2009 for a number of reasons with some being:

1. It's more stable
2. It's more secure
3. I have more control over what the machine can do at the lower levels of the networking stack (layers 2,3 & 4).
4. There are software tools that aren't ported to the Windows platform and even if there are ports most were initially developed for a *nix type OS and thus run better and/or are more fully featured on a *nix OS.

I look forward to the day when I can wipe the Windows partition off all of my machines and thus am quite happy to pay at least the same price of the Window's version for a Linux port assuming the port runs at least as well.

Ubuntu has been quite successful in growing the Linux desktop side of the equation and has significantly helped with moving the Linux desktop out of the hard-core "Geek" world and into more of the mainstream. As such the Linux desktop installed base is likely at or exceeds the necessary size to make ports of existing software economically viable.

There was a time when some of the issues raised here against using Linux as a desktop OS had more weight than they do now but much has changed in the past few years.

In regards to a number of the comments above that assume (key word) to know that Linux users wouldn't pay for commercial software I say show me the data; not your "feelings" about the topic.

Mike Shafer

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If I were a TechSmith product manager, why would I ever pitch this idea to the executive team?

Let's do one of the following:
A: hire a Linux developer ($90k/yr?) or multiple Linux developers
B: train our existing developers (1k-4k per developer) and have them stop working on our existing planned upgrades to focus on Linux...

To do one of the following:
A: scour through and port over existing code
B: re-create software from the ground up.

To sell to:
A: a user community that doesn't traditionally expect to pay for software or operating systems (despite the various posts in this thread to the contrary)
B: a user community that has a history of "sharing"
C: a user community that may expect to get the Linux port free if they bought the Windows version
D: a user community that is what? ...100 times? 1000 times? 10,000 times? ...smaller than our existing user base
E: a user community that will most likely not use this in a large business nor educational setting (ie no large contracts to a large entity)

The benefits will be:
- profit? how in the world will this turn a profit?
- goodwill towards Linux users? Great. Goodwill will start paying salaries too, I'm sure.

I would be a fired project manager if I pitched that idea.

If you guys really want this to happen, you need to start bugging (large) companies that use a large install base of Linux workstations (good luck with that) and have them strike an agreement where they invest X dollars into TechSmith for a Linux port, then TechSmith will sell single licenses on the side as a result for your benefit.

Software companies grow through partnerships.
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Every time you say "lol" you're saying you're laughing at people. It's uncivil and obnoxious. I happen to agree with you that it will probably never be in TechSmith's interest to port their apps to Linux, but that doesn't mean you have to be so unpleasant.
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dfarwell

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Fair enough comment. I've removed or replaced those phrases.
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This is not that difficult anymore:

Make a crowd-funded (E.g. Indiegogo) proposal based on a rough yet safe estimate of the required investment to make this happen. Spread the word on a few FOSS community sites (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) and to existing customers. Give it a month. If the funding target is reached:
* Techsmith has a risk-free path to a Linux port, and
* We get what we need.

If you consider this a good idea, send an e-mail to Techsmith proposing this.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Linux version neede.


Let me add my voice to the plea for a linux version of snagit!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Win7, Win7 VM, and Linux support?.


I use Snagit a lot and really love it. Thanks! I am currently a register user running on Windows XP SP3 and am being forced to upgrade to Win7. How do I make sure I can access Snagit after the upgrade?
Also, is there a version for Linux (Red Hat). My other laptop is currently running Linux with a Win 7 VM on top. Will Snagit run on Linux and/or on a Win7 VM?
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Cleiton Freire

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Sounds like C4eB and "privileged user" has a lot of meaning for you! ;)
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Official Response
Hi all-

We just released a version of Snagit for Google Chrome, which means some of the functionality of Snagit is now available on machines running Linux and the Google Chrome browser. Currently, Snagit for Chrome is free and offers image capture and light editing of browser-based content. Check out the TechSmith blog for details on how to get it!

I realize this is not the same as having the full power of Snagit in a native Linux app...but hopefully it will help fill the void somewhat. And the good news is that we'll be continuing to develop Snagit for Google Chrome to become more feature-rich. We'd love to hear your feedback and feature requests in that area of the community.
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Sorry, but I don't want to use anything from g(.)(.)gle. I don't use their search engine, I don't have an Android phone, or any "smart" phone, and I sure am not going to use Chrome.

By my reckoning, all g(.)(.)gle products are just glorified phishing expeditions. No . Thanks .

Please consider a real native Linux app instead of depending on enterprises like g(.)(.)gle.

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Chuqui

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Hi Daniel,

Congratulations! This is a HUGE step ahead in the development of a Linux version of SnagIt. I wonder if it will work in Chromium. If it does, then Tony could maybe delete his whimsical comment ;)

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Tony Camuso

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Still no g(.)(.)gle for me, thanks.
:)

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I don't like electricity. Can you guys make snagit available for papyrus? I think it's kind of silly that TechSmith has neglected such a huge platform. Papyrus isn't dead; lot's of people still use papyrus. I hate that nobody writes apps for it anymore. If you please make snagit work on papyrus I will be your best customer!
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While this is a step in the right direction (Snagit on Linux per se), I certainly hope this is a "let's see if this keeps them quiet before we invest a whole lot in the Linux platform..." and not the "total solution". 

As distributions of Linux continue to be adopted planet-wide by various governments and business concerns (read Linux Format or the like for continuing announcements of its adoption by governments and industry) I still firmly believe there is a market to make money off of Snagit for Linux: just charge similar rates to that which is charged for the products I mentioned in my post that opened this discussion. If those software vendors can make revenue off of Linux versions of their products, then surely Techsmith can off of Snagit.

I continue ever hopeful ...
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I bought my SnagIT license for Windows years ago. I'd pay a license fee to use SnagIT on Linux with full product support and enhancements. I'd like to leave Windows behind completely at home and just use Mint going forward. So far my move from Windows 7 to Mint Mate 16 is going well, but I still miss my SnagIT :) 

I beta tested SnagIT for Chrome, and I use the stable version now. The SnagIT extension doesn't work outside of the browser of course.

I use Shutter as comparable to SnagIT. 

Please develop SnagIT for debian and red hat distros. 

Thanks!


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