SnagItEditor - How to erase in a straight line ?

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Am not sure if it is possible in v12, though I believe not: erasing in a straight line.
Often one needs to erase something in a straight line, like a wall, a lamp post, whatever and it would then be nice to ctrl-select, or shift-select, what needs to be erased.
Click on startpoint, ctrl-click endpoint (or shift-click, same as Photoshop)

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Yes.  I do this regularly when I need to remove for example, text from screen shot dialogs.  First simply make a selection with the cursor.  (If the Selection Tool is not showing, there should be a "More" button to the left of the Undo-Redo arrows from where you can display the tool.)  Simply hold down the left mouse button and drag over the area to be deleted, and release.  You can now either simply press delete, or right click on the selected area for more options.

In my case what I often do is to mark an area large enough to cover what I want to hide, copy and paste, and then adjust the pasted part into the exact position.

I also use the same kind of technique to "blur" areas.  I may have a drop down menu where I need to clearly show the name at the top of that menu, but other menu names may also be displayed on either side.  Hence I can blur those other names.

Hope this at least gets you started.

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Thanks. This may indeed be a method. One needs to use the 'polygon' selection tool for matters that aren't exactly horizontal or vertical, but are in angle. Compared to shift-erase, this method certainly requires more clicks.

Admittedly, it isn't impossible, but then again, I feel shift-erase (similar to Photoshop) is more convenient.

Reason why I suggested to this feature be added to SnagItEditor.

I am not a technical person and have no idea at all as to how much programming work this will require, but considering all the other features within SnagItEditor, maybe this is not too complicated(?)

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Hello there Mike 62,

I enjoy using SnagIt a lot but it has its limitations.

I capture images and annotate them in SnagIt quite often.

However, In most cases I use the Share to Program feature to transfer images directly into Photoshop after adding annotations. I also capture many of my images directly into Photoshop without opening the editor at all.

 For myself, SnagIt and Photoshop are a great combination.

It sounds like you’re already knowledgeable in Photoshop. Once you get the hang of bouncing the images back and forth between the two programs you’re home free. I was fortunate enough to acquire Photoshop CS6 before Adobe adopted the monthly subscription rates for using their programs. Photoshop Elements 14 has more features than most people need and it is very cheap by comparison. If you’re proficient with all the selection tools and are good with layer masks as well the eraser tool is practically obsolete and useless. I just wish Elements 14 included the pen tool.

Don’t get me wrong I do love SnagIt. It is the most versatile still image capture device I’ve ever used and I will probably always recommend it to others.

But it’s a lot like when I edit videos. I do the majority of my audio work in Adobe Audition. Sometimes two programs are much better than one.

Regards, Joe

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Hi there Joe,

Thanks for the above. I confess I never gave he SnagItEditor-Photoshop combo a try.
Actually, I think, what I am asking for/suggesting is just a minor improvement.
What I wanted to do so far with the screenshots, could fairly well be done within the SnagItEditor.

Also, to be honest, I am not sure how any changes made in Photoshop will roll-over into the version within SnagItEditor.
Just an example: when I erase something within SnagItEditor, I will get the transparent background.
I will get a solid color in Photoshop, basically, white or black. Workaround would then be to create a duplicate layer and erase actions on this duplicate layer will get the transparent background.
The layers should be merged again I suppose.

Rotating: I think rotating within SnagItEditor is easier, canvas size is automatically adjusted.
Rotating in photoshop would be thru Transform.
Image->Image Ratation->Arbitrary->Rotate Canvas doesn't give a preview.(no dropdown with degrees)

Anyway, point is that it can all be done for sure within Photoshop, but personally, after trying for the 1st time, just now, I think it is a bit of an overkill for this action. Again, I am not sure/acquainted as to how changes in Photoshop will rollover into the SnagItEditor version.
The filename within Photoshop says something like 'SNAG_Program--0001.png', which obviously is diffferent from the one within SnagIt.

BTW I am not sure whether v12 allows users to freely select a tool to share with (right now it is only Paint, Photoshop and Outlook) but one might as well use PhotoFiltre v7 portable, which is free of charge and supports shift-erase for that matter (and layers)

Anyway, let's hope the developers will read this thread and at least consider the idea..   :-)
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Hey Mike, I understand why you want TechSmith to add the feature you requested. I agree it’s a good idea.

However, Photoshop's editing features are second to none in my opinion.

For annotations and some other features SnagIt is faster and my preferred choice.  That’s why the 2 programs can really complement each other.

So here’s my workflow in a nutshell. I think ahead as to what I want to do with the “image / or images” I am about to capture.

If I simply want to capture an image directly into Photoshop I do that using a custom profile. Sometimes I capture several images and I use Photoshop to carve them up and combine them into one final image. Then I save that image and open it SnagIt for the purpose of adding annotations.

 If I want to add annotations to an image first, I can do that in SnagIt and then share that image to Photoshop for further editing.

There is a simple way to send images to another program using SnagIt. I threw together a quick video to show you how to set that up along with a few Photoshop tips based on your previous response. I primarily use Photoshop CS6. However, Photoshop Elements has the tools to pull off some very complex video editing tasks with ease.

I’ve been using the 2 programs together for so long now that I intuitively know which program I want to open the image in first in most cases. That way I only share it to the other program once to complete my work.

It only takes a few seconds to open an image in another program. Using inefficient tools to perform a task will really slow you down in the long run.

So here’s a link to the video that I threw together, it could be more polished. http://www.screencast.com/t/wGM1iYy90RFh

Regards, Joe

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Hi Joe,
Thank you soo much for taking the time for creating this video!
Truly appreciated indeed.

I am not so much of a Photoshop expert and always left the source layer untouched (read: locked)
Duplicated it and went on with that one as a base. Adding layers on top and in the end merged the whole bunch (if necessary) and save it to png or jpg.
But the first layer basically always remained a 'locked' one.
Your unlocking-trick and getting a, let's say, erase with transparent background, that was/is new to me. As said, I never touched that before: wasn't necessary.

I don't have Elements, although I understand it often is easier to work with, i.e. get things done, comparing to Photoshop itself. I did consider to move to Elements but couldn't make my mind up.
Maybe I should give it a try first.  Which one do -you-  prefer?

Anyway, again, I do appreciate your work!

Best regards,
Mike
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 Leaving the original image untouched and working on a duplicate layer has a number of advantages. The idea behind duplicating the image first is that you always have access to the original untouched image if need be.
Anytime I send an image to Photoshop from the SnagIt Editor. Or, capture an image using a custom profile sending the image directly to Photoshop, the images are never locked.  If I ever needed access to the original image it's always accessible from the SnagIt library.

I "use and prefer" Photoshop CS6 Extended. It's about 3 years old now and it will never be updated or have any of the new features offered with Photoshop CC but I'm not tied down to a paying a subscription either. They still release updates for camera RAW so even as new cameras are released I will still be able to import the images natively. CS6 has so many features I will never master or use many of them. Perhaps several years down the road CC will have so many cool new features I won't be able to resist getting it.

Photoshop Elements 14 was given to me. I didn't know what version of Photoshop you were using but the workflow is basically the same with either program. I just happened to use Elements for my demonstration. You can purchase Elements on the cheap compared to a lifetime subscription to PS CC.

Photoshop has a more professional layout and feature set than PS Elements. Although Elements offers more features than most people will ever need or use. I find some of the tool controls and other features a little clunky and awkward to use compared to Photoshop but I rarely use Elements and I suspect my lack of familiarity is mostly to blame for that. The tools all accomplish the same things in the long run.  You can always download a free trial of Elements and give it a whirl.

Regards,Joe
   
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I am using the non-extended version of Photoshop CS6. Some 6-7 I could buy it at a heavily discounted price. Elements was at v4 or v5 at the time so it was still way behind on Photoshop. That changed significantly I believe.

I won't buy a CC subscription neither. Most likely CS6 will indeed be their last stand lone version. Then again, if their customerbase is getting (too) small because of the lack of subscriptions and the missing stand-alone sales, who knows, maybe they will reconsider their position. The new PE14 comes with a number of new features that are probably fairly difficult to do within CS6, like: Auto Haze Remover, Auto shake Reduction.

All this is slightly off-topic  :-)

Meanwhile, when I send a screenshot to Photoshop, be it whilst using share or using a preset, the layer is 'locked' by default.

Funny, it says the layer 'partially' locked.
Maybe there is an 'entirely' locked status as well...



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If you remove the lock and place it back on manually from the layers panel it will become fully locked.



I would imagine that I have a setting enabled that allows me to import unlocked images from SnagIt but I don't know what it is or if it's related to SnagIt or Photoshop.

 
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BTW out of curiosity..

What tool did you use when recording the video?
Camtasia I assume?
The usual free tools to do screenrecordings don't have this zoom-in/out feature.

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Yep, Camtasia.
The pan and zoom tool is really easy to work with.