Snapping objects on canvas

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(This idea is something we’ve heard from customers over time from several of our sources of feedback. We’re posting it here to gauge how well this fits our users’ needs. So please let us know what you think.)


I really want to be able to be able to align objects on the canvas more easily.

Right now as a workaround until I have a better way, I use the Line tool to make a line, line things up with that, and then delete it afterward. Or I just eyeball it and tweak it with the arrow keys.

I would REALLY love to have guides to snap the thing I'm dragging to other objects on the canvas.
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This is definitely something we’re going to keep under consideration and on our list for upcoming work. I took a tally of the comments here and the favored way of handling this first was with snapping. That will definitely be more approachable for new users as well, so this seems like a win-win for everyone. We’ll make sure to keep rulers and draggable guidelines in mind if we decide to take this one step further. Like Glenn said, trying to do everything can lead to compromises in other areas and time spent over-engineering solutions. So we’re going to start investigating snapping and then re-evaluate after that gets implemented/tested.

We really appreciate the level of detail all of you went into to help clarify what you’d want out of this. Understanding the use cases really helps our devs, designers, writers, testers, and myself.

There is another item related to rulers that I’d love to get your thoughts on as well. I created a quick survey to get more clarity on if arrows with right angles (or easier to use bezier arrows) are more important than rulers, so it’d be great if you all could weigh in there too.

Here are the definitions of what the statuses mean for Ideas.
Here is the overall vote count for the rest of the Ideas in this round up.
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Why not both snapping and rulers? They meet different needs. I for one would use both; snapping to align objects and rulers to build a stairs type graphic
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Chris, I agree with Rick G about having both snapping and rulers. Both of them have different functionality. Like I say, different users think differently, "What is good for the goose might not be good for the gander".

I think we should have both snapping and rulers.

Surprised to find that QAT, Rulers, Snapping and Alignment guides did not garner enough votes.

Taking into consideration of the ideas posted to be voted (23)

52% of the posted ideas are "NOT PLANNED" (not going to be implemented?) (12 Ideas)

4% of the posted ideas are "PLANNED" (1 Idea)

39% of the posted ideas are "UNDER CONSIDERATION" (9 Ideas)

1% of the posted ideas is "NEED MORE INFO" (1 Idea)

Not Good, resolutions going the wrong way.

Check these stats:


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Chris Larson, Snagit Technical Product Manager

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To be clear, Snapping on the Canvas did garner enough votes.

We said in the status description topic that marking an Idea as “Under Consideration” is the first step in moving forward with a submitted Idea. The total number of threads marked with “Under Consideration” will be limited, so as not to overpromise and underdeliver.

We need to start somewhere. So snapping is the place to start. That doesn't rule out rulers and guides in the future. When something is marked as Not Planned that means the Idea did not reach enough votes to be prioritized over other ideas for this round. We welcome you to bring back up ideas that didn't get enough votes.

I'm quite proud of how much we've decided to start looking at. As you can see from the list, we've got quite a few things to work toward. Development, design, and testing resources are limited. If you take on too much work at once, everything becomes buggy and poorly designed. So we need to focus on a subset first. I'll get out the rest of my responses today on some of the Not Planned items.
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Figues make pretty dismal reading after all the efforst of users. I am particularly incensed by the figures on "schedule start and stop time for recording", given the huge amount of time that would be saved by all users capturing films, presentations etc. 24 votes (7%).
Have the books been cooked? How reliable are they? Can they be validated?
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Paul

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It's votes on a forum brt.  That's all there is to it.  And while you may think it would save lots of people lots of time, the people don't agree.  One of my pet hates - the stupid line that gets put around all images - didn't make the cut either.  The votes are public on the forum so you could always check, and for that reason I would be inclined to trust them.  Too easy for us to check.

More troubling to me was that there were several items that didn't make it that had larger votes then those that did.  And I really hate that if they don't make the cut they drop off the radar.  That means that the ones that scored higher than the ones that got done will never be done?  Huh?

There are clearly many factors at play
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Paul, it is easy enought to compute the time saving. Iamgine a 1 hour video that is captured over night. Day 6 hours that have to be cut away, - the extremely inefficent processing, that could take 2 hours, followed by the equally inefficent saving process that could also take 1 to 2 hours.  Multiply this  by the number of users who might be doing this per week, and then multiply by 52 weeks per year. And then you get a figure for wasted time that T3echSmith has imposed on us, and anybody who did not look into the potential time savings, It is actually a no-brainer.
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I don't doubt that it is easy enough to compute the time spent although the "users who might be using it" is a speculative variable.  I, for one, did not vote for your idea because it has no value for me.  I wouldn't use it.

I don't vote for features that I would never use. The people who add ideas on this forum are generally experienced users, and so hardly any of the ideas are bad.  If we all voted for good ideas regardless of whether or not we would use them then every idea would get 100% support and the whole voting system would be pointless.
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Hello again!

For those interested in beta testing the next version of Snagit, please fill out this form. (Some of you have reached out to me directly, I already have you signed up, no need to fill out the form)

We have some Snapping changes (only in our Mac beta at the moment) that we’d love your feedback on. We expect the beta to start next week and it’ll last around a month.

Have a great weekend!
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Rick Grunwald

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Are the ones who were in the last beta test automatically in this one?
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Chris Larson, Snagit Technical Product Manager

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Yes. We're handling this one a little differently in terms of how you participate (forms for feedback). But you'll get an invite through email today.
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Official Response
Hello all! Snapping on the Canvas was released today in Snagit 2018 for macOS. It's coming soon for Windows.

Here it is in action:


It snaps to other objects on the canvas and the edges and center of the canvas itself. It works well with Smart Move too. By even snapping to objects in your captured image.

Thank you to all the beta testers that gave feedback on how this worked!

Snagit 2018 is a paid update.
There is upgrade pricing available. You can upgrade from any previous version of Snagit and get this pricing.
If you are currently paying for maintenance, this update is included for free.
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When is this coming to the Windows version, please?
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Rick Stone

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It made it today! Yay!
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JL1

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Where?
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Rick Stone

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You have to update to get the magickal beans! But don't worry. The update is
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Rick Stone

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Hey Chris - Awesome job on giving us snapping in today's release! Well done!
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Paul

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There's just one little problem.  I have been staring at this for over 10 minutes now:



Paul :(
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Rick Stone

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Yeah, mine took eons too. I just went off and did something else for a while. When I next looked, SnagIt wanted to update!
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JL1

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Right, it takes forever, which why I initially asked "where?"
Update installed, SnagIt needs to my computer to restart.
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Rick Stone

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Interesting. After I updated there was no restart notification. I simply had the snapping when I looked.
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Paul

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2.5 hours later and guess what?

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Rick Stone

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Well, I've heard you do live across a VERY large body of water! LOL
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Paul

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If you could just ask Donald to leave his friggin' twitter account alone for an hour, there might be some bandwidth left for real work.
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Rick Stone

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MUST. RESIST. GOING. THERE.
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Hey Paul,

Just download it manually https://www.techsmith.com/download/oldversions

The new version is there. Just run the installer and chose "Modify"
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If you could just ask Donald to leave his friggin' twitter account alone for an hour, there might be some bandwidth left for real work.

FAKE NEWS! AND TREASONOUS TO BOOT!
Ok enough ... no need to close the thread 
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I run Fiber so my update took only about 5 minutes (lucky me!). It could be the Techsmith server overloaded with others updating it too. Some of the software companies do not learn that in order not to overload their servers with live updates, they should allow updater to download the file to the user's destination of choice and let the user install it, that cuts down on the bandwidth issue for live updates for the companies. Thanx Joe Morgan for pointing out the download location.

When I was updating, I did not see any activity on the screen and the "Updater icon" was present in the taskbar so I knew something was going on. The disappointment was that after the upgrade, my customized toolbar in the v2018 editor was reset to the original one. The odd part is that the HEX registry entry for the ribbon toolbar in v2018 and v11.4.1.195 is almost identical but the toolbars are different.

Disappointing, I have both versions installed v2018 and v11.4.1.195 and guess what I am going to be using, the old version because v2018 just does not cut it for me. I will still keep on updating in the hopes that ALL OUR wishes will come true by next Christmas and by than it will time for v2019, Ka Ching.

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Jeez.

2.5 hours to wait for the auto-update that never happened
30 seconds to download "manually" (Thank you Joe"
30 minutes to install on an SSD with 230GB of spare capacity !!!

This snapping function better be good.
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Rick Stone

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Sounds like the install wasn't "snappy" eh?
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Rick Grunwald

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29 of those minutes was connecting to the server and downloading. THe download itself is not big. I had an issue so I killed it and when it restarted it went quickly
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I run all my updates manually. Have been for years.
The automatic update process has been flawed and problematic going way back.

Plus I save a copy of "All" installation files on 2 drives for Repair or Reinstall purposes. The Download site doesn't carry all versions. I don't need them all, but that's my motivation in doing so. Down the road,I may decide I really prefer version 2018.X.X and it might not be available.  
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I'm not sure why this would hang for so long. We're using a CDN so it's not like all these files are coming from one server.
-Glenn
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Rick Grunwald

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feces occurs. Interrupted requests that have nothing to do with  your servers etc
I do have a question: On the ftp site it shows the latest version as "1810" with a date of 1/25
Where is the latest update and how do we reconcile "1810" with the version number in HELP / ABOUT?
Thanks
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Hi Rick - the 1810 stands for Snagit 2018.1.0. A couple of internal systems have not yet been updated to support the new 4-digit naming convention for major versions so they are using 18 to represent 2018.
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Thanks for the info