Software Simulation - Can you add more ways to control Hotspots?

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Software Simulation - Can you add more ways to control Hotspots - Double Click, keyboard presses, not just click to continue? This would make Camtasia great for creating interactive training material.
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That's a cool idea, David! Thank you for sharing - I'd love to hear more about it. What functionality would they provide that clicking doesn't? What kinds of materials would you be able to create that you can't with just clicking?
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Kaitlin:
I concur with David above - I would like  Camtasia to have the ability to provide Javascript capability to have a popup window - which could provide the ability to show another website or pdf file, or any other file type consistent with the software that may be demoed in the video. In other words, if someone is creatiing an Excel tutorial like I do, I could popup a live Excel sheet so that students could imitate  what I was doing. and then return to the movie.The creator of the Camtasia movie should be able to constrain the size and location of the popup window  - just like the Javascript - window.open command.
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Yes. In projects distributed on USB sticks or DVDs are missing HotSpots with features like point to other html files hosted locally - in the same folder as the video- without appears a warning saying that 'the security settings for the local network avoid the Jump due the files are offline".

If this feature were implemented, it would be possible to open files within the browser itself, like pdfs, etc... This issue could be addressed as a final activity, while commanding the rendering of video as a configurable feature in the controller or Preset: (The Final production will be not online nor hosted in the server)

Another feature that I miss is the possibility that HotSpots point to the next or previous marker:

http://www.contatobrasil.org.br/intro/VT/HotSpots_Enhanced_Suggestion.jpg



If this were possible, to set just 2 hotspot pointing to the previous and next marker, would allow these callouts/hotspots be copied and pasted over a project with multiple chapters with ease.

Take a look on how would be the interface of these features:

http://www.contatobrasil.org.br/intro/VT/HotSpots_Enhanced.jpg



Another possibility that I often missed is an 'indirect jump' ie a HotSpot that just by being there when playing the video hits its position, it can perform an indirect jump to another marker, without the need the user click in anything. Thus the projects could be programmed to play different video segments with routines, subroutines, etc. and the playback point could be controlled more efficiently, since when finished playing that piece, the jump would indicate where the sequence will be continued.

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Kaitlin,

My need is a little different! I've been using Camtasia for video demo's of our software, Audio Notetaker, for some time and am now looking at providing more interactive demos that make users feel like they are actually using the software.  

I have done a draft video that works surprisingly well, using Pause at end and click to continue. But users need to interact with software with more than just single clicks; using double clicks, keyboard presses etc.

I have been trialling Adobe's Captivate; while it's not very good at capturing the feel of our software (and has an awful UI) it does allow more ways to interact with the video. If we could get these added to Camtasia it would make it ideal for creating hands-on interactive training material.

(I can send a link to my draft video if it would prove useful)

Thanks

David
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Thank you all for sharing so much - this is great info! I've passed this along to the development team. I encourage others to chime in and add their thoughts if this is something they'd like to see in a future release as well!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
User Input Fields.


As I continue to explore using Camtasia as a sort of simulation engine, I find myself in a situation where I'd like the playhead to stop...like a hotspot does...but now I want the user to type something in a field (simulated field) on the screen.  For instance, suppose I'm giving a lesson on how to use Google.  I might have a screen shot of the Google page and there's the Google Search field.  I want to tell the user, "Type cat video in the search field."  Now I want to pause the playhead and wait for the user to type those words.  Once they do, then the video continues.

Can it be done?

---Damian
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In short, this would be a Hotspot with an input field that stops the execution of the video until the field is entered.

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Hi all

Part of my psyche is being as honest as I know how to be. For example, I use Adobe products and have for years. Yet, in some of the Adobe forums if folks ask about something that the Adobe product doesn't do or doesn't do well, I regularly refer them to a different product. On so many occasions I've caused gasps to occur as I've recommended folks to come look at Camtasia.

And in this case I'm going to do something similar. Please note that in no way is my goal in helping out here to be to sway folks away from using Techsmith products. But if your goal is to create this level of interactive training, Adobe Captivate rocks in this area and makes what has been requested very simple to do.

And in all the Captivate classes I facilitate, when we look at Captivate's "Camtasia like" mode of recording, I admonish my participants that if they have no other choice but to use it, use it.

BUT, if you DO have a choice, Camtasia's full motion recording blows Captivate's totally away on all aspects. And if I can, I want BOTH tools in my toolset as each has its own strengths and weaknesses.

Cheers... Rick :)
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This is exactly the kind of thing I would like to be able to do as well.

And I also very much agree with David Keating's requests, which are similar. I have also been fortunate enough to be able to experiment with Captivate, which can  sorta kinda do what I want, but *I* think it is rather klugey.

On top of that, I can't do it in Captivate and then import anything into Camtasia (where I do my final production processing before publishing) with anything like usable media or the kind of user interactivity I'm looking for. Since I'm having to create my final training simulation exercises in Camtasia, it sure would be nice to be able to do it right! PLEASE can we have this?

I also agree with much of what Rick Stone has said, which is why I've been experimenting with Captivate. One of the big problems for us, as I kinda mentioned above, is that, for a whole host of reasons, we like to do our final production processing in Camtasia. If we could simply import a SWF/Flash module output from Captivate into Camtasia without any loss of user interactive functionality, that would probably take care of our problem--but we can't.

So, we have a real dilemma: We like the interactive training simulation capabilities of Captivate better for creating user exercises (and for doing software demos), but we like Camtasia better for just about everything else. If the two products would play nicer together, that would be terrific. But they don't, I suppose because they see each other as being competitors. I, however, see them as potentially really great complementary tools, if they just provided more and better ways of merging and integrating the outputs from both into a single output.

I would settle for Camtasia just offering the kind of user interactivity that is being discussed here. Unfortunately, it can't happen fast enough for me.

And, I suppose, asking Camtasia and Captivate to play nice together is somewhat akin to asking Sherlock Holmes and Michael Moriarty to be BFsF.
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in a prior version of Captivate, I successfully imported a Camtasia mp4 file into a Captivate project.
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Importing an MP4 file either direction is not the problem. I can do that. But I lose all the interactive functionality of the training simulation when I go from Captivate to Camtasia; and I lose all the hotspots, player controls, etc. when I go from Camtasia to Captivate.

As I said above, what I want  is to be able to import an interactive SWF/Flash module from Captivate into Camtasia. That would resolve a whole host of problems for me. Either that, or I want for Camtasia to have the same kind of options for interactive training simulations that started this whole discussion and list of requests in the first place.
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I'm with CBeck.  I want and need the same thing.  I'd like to not have to use two different tools.  Since Camtasia doesn't really support software simulations, I have to use Captivate, which I find using more and Camtasia less.  :/
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The problem is that Captivate and Camtasia capture the screen in entirely different ways. While Captivate does offer a "Camtasia like" way of capturing, it blows big ole chunks of blue cheese" at it whereas Camtasia rocks!

In Captivate's typical slide by slide method of capturing (I liken it to an automated "stop motion animation" type of capture, it's simple to create a simulation. And for that, it rocks and Camtasia doesn't do it well.

If one has the budget, certainly both tools are desirable.

What would be cool is to see Camtasia create a similar capture mode to what Captivate offers. But I'm thinking that would require significant changes.

Cheers... Rick :)
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Totally agree with you, Rick. That has been my perception and my experience as well. And fortunately for me, I do have the budget to have and use both tools.

The problem that I'm having is that they tend to not play nice together. For instance, I cannot create a training simulation exercise that requires user-typed input in Captivate and then import it into Camtasia. At least, not that I've been able to figure out. I had high hopes that creating them as Flash/SWF modules in Captivate and then importing them into Camtasia would be the solution I was seeking.

Not so. Camtasia only accepts SWF files that were produced in Camtasia or Jing, both TechSmith products.

So, I thought, I will go ahead and create my training simulations in Camtasia, even though it is a lot more laborious and tedious. Unfortunately, that also is not always an option, because—whereas I can create clickable hotspots and all—I canNOT create a user input text field that validates the  trainee's input before moving on.

As a result, I have had to simply scrub a couple exercises I wanted my trainees to do, because I just could not find a way to do it. That is my frustration. It seems to me that there should be no problem simply importing and using a SWF file 'as is', as a media resource from anywhere; but the TechSmith tech support guys say it just ain't so.

So be it. I'm a creative guy. I'll figure out a way to do what I want, one way or another. Or I won't. I'm just sayin' that I think the TechSmith folks could make it a lot easier to do this kind of thing by building into Camtasia the right tools to do it with. I know it's possible; but I don't think it is probably going to happen, because that does not really seem to be the direction they're taking Camtasia right now. They seem to be much more focused on simply providing video outputs that require no or very limited user interaction.

But hey, a guy can dream, can't he?
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What about doing it the other way around? Use Captivate as the "container" and create your full motion bits with Camtasia? Push them out of Camtasia as videos that you insert onto Captivate slides as event videos where needed.

Cheers... Rick :)
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That's a thought. I think that the reason we hadn't considered that as an option was that we have been using Camtasia for final processing, which includes Closed Captioning. I guess I haven't looked into whether we could do that kind of final processing in Captivate.

I'll have to look into that. Thanks for the suggestion.
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You shootin blanks at us? ;)
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LOL. That was an error.

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