Studio 5 to Studio 8 Conversion - No Audio

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I am beginning to re-render over 70 hours originally recorded through PowerPoint with Camtasia Studio 5 into Studio 8. (The old renders don't work reliably in modern tech anymore...) The original includes a PIP as well as a screen capture, the audio is on the PIP track.

When I open the old .camproj files it gives me the warning that it needs to convert to the new format and saves a backup. All my edits are in the converted .camproj file, but there is no audio in the project at all. The audio is in the .camrec file itself, since if I pull that medium down into a track it plays fine. But if I have to recreate all my edits for the 70 hours, well I am going to be doing that for a loooong time.

Can anyone tell me if there is something I can do to have the audio come in with the conversion?
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Hello,

That is quite a leap forward to the multi-track timeline which could not have been anticipated during CS5. The good news is that all of your editing work is intact. I record everything AVI myself. I suspect that you can export the audio from the camrec to get a separate audio stem and simply place it on it's own track in the corresponding project?

Perhaps someone else has made a similar upgrade and can shortcut this for you...

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Hey Timbre, thanks for taking a moment to answer!

Yes, the audio is all still there and I can bring in the original .camrec, delete the screen capture, split the video and audio from the PIP and get the audio track. The problem is that the audio doesn't conform to the edits I made in the screen cap/PIP. I can laboriously try to figure out where my cuts were and cut the audio to match, but then we run into the possibility of inexact matching as well as a lot of work for each capture.

So yeah, that is the frustrating thing - the audio is right there in the very same medium that the new project is looking at, it just isn't bringing in the audio matching the PIP.
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Here is a suggestion that will be bad for quality, but fast if speed is important.  It may be a quick fix while you work on the correct conversion.

Have you considered playing and recording the original rendition then rendering? 

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Hey ExpertNovice, yes, that was my fallback.Considering it is about 70 hours, it is a not-so-fast solution though. Or maybe I can find something to break out the audio out from the Studio 5 rendered .FLV directly and bring that in as its own medium.

Still, as the information is in the very file it is referencing, it seems like a no-brainer to bring in the audio as well. Of course, thinking that probably means weeks of development work in my experience.
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If you Google 'flv to wav' there are converters out there, just an idea. Good luck

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Cool, that will be my fallback if no one knows how to get the audio to import in from the camrec. Thanks Timbre and ExpertNovice!
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Tried breaking the audio out of the previously rendered FLV and the audio and video are not aligned all that well. So still looking for a solution to bring the audio in with the edited .camrec.
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Good luck.  You sound like friends who have been given the "family" task of digitizing and cleaning all the old photos.  :D  Seriously, I hope you find a good solution.  Have you contacted customer support?  Have you tried converting the CS5 to CS?6? ... C8/9 to see if that worked?

While you would have to set a timer to stop the recording if using the playback/screen record method, with a conversion you could just start at least conversions a day and walk away.

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something else to try, assuming you have intact original CS5 projects [zip files?] ...

load the CS5 projects into CS6 and convert; the 6 projects into CS7 and convert; the 7 projects into CS8 and convert

I remember seeing issues when jumping/converting  between multiple versions

perhaps it will help?
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Hey kayakman, unfortunately, I only have 5 and 8. I didn't really need any of the features in between and 5 worked just fine for my purposes (until it didn't...). Hmm, are there standalone version converters?
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you should be able to download earlier versions ...
http://www.techsmith.com/download/oldversions.asp

your CS8 key should [?] work on the earlier versions, or maybe they will still work as 30 day trials
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@ Steve

Questions:

Do you already have the videos from 5 rendered ?

From the thread here as .flv ?

If yes.. Are you just wanting to convert them to .mp4 perhaps ?

If so have you tried to convert them from .flv to .mp4 using Handbrake or my preference ffmpeg ?
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Hi Dubie, thanks for asking!

Yes, the videos were rendered into .flv and I have the raw .camrec as well.

Hmm well what I am looking for is to use the smart player with the ToC and all that. It was captured from PowerPoint and I used the slide titles as the ToC. With about 70 hours of capture, I'd like my customers to be able to find what they want relatively quickly. (The final product is 4 DVDs along with accompanying materials.) Each session created two .flvs, the screen capture and the video capture (where the audio actually lives). In the old version, it would render the two .flvs and play them in one browser window simultaneously. I was also taking the opportunity of having to re-render to increase the resolution, but I'd give that up to automate the process of updating to MP4s. So there might be a path along what you are thinking...maybe convert the two .flvs to mp4s, then bring those in as media into Camtasia 8.

@kayakman, Great idea - I will download 6 and 7 and see if I can climb the chain of upgrading! Thanks!
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Well converting the flv's may possibly be a way to capture the video and audio together and then bring them into Camtasia, the down side though would be that the ToC and smart player won't come along with it. (Didn't know you were working with ToC and the smart player)

So I guess it might come down to converting them and then recreating the ToC  or
as you state "climb the chain of upgrading" through multiple versions.

Time/work... Which way to go. Which way to go. ??
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"Time/work... Which way to go. Which way to go. ??"

Always the perennial question.

Well, I tried the upgrade route. Good news all around! Both 6 and 7 used my current license with no problem. 5->6->7->8 worked fine, and so did 5->7->8 did as well, so that saves one conversion step.

So to any other late-adopters out there, upgrading directly from 5 to 7 brings the full project into 8 just fine.

So that is my solution for now - if anyone knows how to go straight from 5 to 8, well let me know as that would save some work.

Thanks everyone who jumped in so far! You have already saved me a lot of time and frustration!
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Glad to be reading of this better outcome for you.
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...and the answer from tech support...looks like kayakman found the best solution. Thanks again all!

Mike Spink

Mike Spink (TechSmith Support)

Jun 7, 2:39 PM EDT

Hi Steven,

I'm afraid this was a known bug with PowerPoint camrecs with audio.  Going to 7 first before 8 would be the best option I'm afraid.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Kind Regards,
Mike
Senior Support Specialist