support for ASIO audio drivers?

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Hi,
I am still hoping one day to get support for ASIO audio drivers in Camtasia. Support for these drivers would allow use of more professional audio hardware as recording sources. Is this in development for a future release?
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I did not upgrade to version 8 and am waiting to see if they will support my Mbox Pro 3rd Gen. 8-channel or UR824 USB 24-channel audio interfaces would be supported. I've tried many workarounds, but all are inconvenient and ineffective. Good to hear that you found BB Flashback. I'll try it out, thanks for the solution.
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indeed.... make sure you try the demo of course... it may not be for everyone. But I almost shed a tear when I looked under the audio section and saw 10 channels from my interface that I was able to choose from. It bewilders me (and I never use the word bewilder..lol) how Tech still does not have this feature.
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ASIO is a must. I've been waiting for 6 years and refuse to upgrade until it is offered. I'm actually thinking of switching to a Mac ... at least SoundFlower and Screen Flow have no problems capturing the audio. TechSmith - you must implement ASIO for those who do pro Audio and Video editing. In today's environment it doesn't stand to reason why you wouldn't. Are there licensing issues? Please fix it.
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Hey Techsmith:
http://www.steinberg.net/en/company/d...

Does this help?
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jesse olley

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Here's the legal agreement. Go for it! http://www.docstoc.com/docs/23181570/...
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I also need ASIO, thanks for the info on BB flashback Dougie L, I'll test the demo.
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Ameyah Pascal Lehmann

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yee just recorded a video with cmatasia and forgot to set to MME output - 30+ minutes wasted because the screen capture has no audio. :(

come on implement ASIO into Camtasia its still a mess without it.
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Just tried BB flashback, that doesn't work with my ASIO drivers either.
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to record the performance of a software virtual instrument with 16 channels of Saida.
type (VSTi plugin) I bought a recorder HDMi worth $ 800.00 dollars.

why?
would like to record my presentations sofware Kriasound VSTi with cantasia but with 16 channels out simultaneously with hardware (WDM) is the latency so that it becomes impossible Work crashes, delays, popcorn, mute in order a series of problems.

good use the cantasia is very good to produce more music videos software does not. except in 2-channel stereo WDM
otherwise how do we buy a recorder with HDMI and stop this talk of ASIO, ASIO, ASIO bla, bla, bla ......

Went Regards to all

ASS: Kriasound Developers of Brasil
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I've been reading threads like this for literally 12 hrs straight trying to get Ableton & my mic to stop going crazy. Crazy amounts of latency... nothing I would consider putting online.

I have a tutorial project due for a website tomorrow morning, so I've pretty much decided I'm going to record the video without a live mic, and talk into the voice recorder on my phone as I'm doing it. At least that way the audio will sync up if I drop it it on top of the video afterwards and just recapture the whole thing again. Hopefully I can get the phone recording to sound halfway decent!
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Hello,

We are asking for your assistance to help us identify issues people are having with audio (in a more structured way than these forum posts).

We have begun an in-depth study of audio devices and / or audio software used in conjunction with Camtasia Studio 8.x or Camtasia for Mac 2.x in order to detect and better understand issues and conflicts customers are experiencing with our software.

If you are willing, we have created a short form for you to fill out (one form per audio device or audio software program) to let us know if your audio software or hardware is conflicting / not working with Camtasia or if it is working as expected.

You may fill out the form here:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/106Ty...

Thank you so much! We appreciate you taking the time to help us identify any audio software or hardware that might be causing issues when creating Camtasia video projects.

Kelly Mullins
Technical Preview Program Coordinator
User Assistance Group
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filling out!
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Thanks so much! We really appreciate your help!
Kelly
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I also filled out your form right away. ASIO drivers are much more stable than WDM drivers with lower latency and has been an industry standard for many years. Thanks for taking ASIO support seriously! Jim
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totally agree less latency(you can play live on the midi controller) - then you can have more vst instruments running in realtime instead of freezing them(unflexible to show the preset was done or any effects) and they are much more stable.
thanks for taking this Topic seriously now!
Thanks,
Pascal ;)
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Bottom line. Study ASIO. Don/t study multiple interfaces... your first stop is ASIO !! This should have come out with version 8 since people have been asking for it for years. So as I stated earlier...my frirst advice is to start with ASIO. Then after you study ASIO take a look on youtube and the the MANY people who are doing music tutorials. Camtasias audio section is primitive at best. How could you let a lessor program like Screenflow beat you to ASIO support? Good news is that the people who created screenflow must not be to bright because if they were they would have focused on making a windows version of Screenflow and snatched all the people who want flexible audio away form TechSmith.

Hopefully Next Year the OP Jesse wont be saying "Wow, I just noticed I started this thread 3 years ago. just, wow"
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sounds a bit hard, but its true.
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Yes, yes, yes! I filled out the survey but Dougie's on the money. It's not about the specific hardware - the industry already has a common standard to support and it's called ASIO! Time to get on the bus.
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Well, here's a post I made about Camtasia 8, regarding ASIO drivers. I do tutorials about audio production. It makes it quite hard with the primary driver!
http://beatstruggles.com/setting-up-c...
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im using Voxengo Recorder now - its a VST plugin(32bit) which you put on the master of your DAW, the only problem you have is to sync the audio with the video in the end. i do this via a sine wave played. (takes 1 min to do and 1 min to sync - its not 100% sync, but it works until Techsmith comes with a solution)
Voxengo recorder: http://www.voxengo.com/product/recorder/and here is a tutorial done with that solution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ2opCGbv7M

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Yes, I need ASIO too. It's the only way to accurately record low latency pro audio. Eg playing soft synths live, or controlling things with V drums. No need to study anything else at all. HOWEVER a quick workaround would be to have Camtasia transmit MIDI timecode info, in order that pro recording software could be synced.

I'd also like to see support for higher samplerate PCM audio, in order to create tutorials not destined for the web.

I work for a pro audio mag and use pretty much all the leading audio software. Let me know if you want any (free) advice on implementation of any of this stuff.
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Yes, I need ASIO too. It's the only way to accurately record low latency pro audio. Eg playing soft synths live, or controlling things with V drums. No need to study anything else at all. HOWEVER a quick workaround would be to have Camtasia transmit MIDI timecode info, in order that pro recording software could be synced.

I'd also like to see support for higher samplerate PCM audio, in order to create tutorials not destined for the web.

I work for a pro audio mag and use pretty much all the leading audio software. Let me know if you want any (free) advice on implementation of any of this stuff.
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Still no support for this I presume? Absolutely ridiculous!
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Camtasia really does need to support ASIO drivers on Windows. If you have an ASIO interface that also supports (the lesser) WDM drivers and has digital loopback facilities then you can make it work... just about... with an elaborate workaround. But with a 'professional' piece of software we should not need to go through this pain! I'll fill out that form, but I'll repeat what has been said: this is not about conflicts with any individual audio interface, it's about supporting the professional audio device driver standard that all pro audio software applications on Windows support — ASIO for Windows, Core Audio for OSX.

Meanwhile, for those who need them, here are some instructions I wrote up on getting Camtasia to work with an ASIO (RME Fireface) interface, based on Phil Pendlebury's earlier work...
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This thread is now 3 years old.  Can we get some sort of update on the progress of this basic functionality?
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LOL Jesse..I typed this a year ago.. "Hopefully Next Year the OP Jesse wont be saying "Wow, I just noticed I started this thread 3 years ago. just, wow". And guess what....here you are..lol. It's quite obvious now that Techsmith doesn't give a #%^$ about ASIO . 
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I went back to Camtasia 8.1 because the recording doesn't start if you use ASIO in the latest version. I do an internal remix inside my RME audio card to record the audio while using Cubase. With Reason I simply mix inside the hardware mixer and record the input.
Well my guess is that not that many use ASIO.
It is a pain...and I am stuck to 8.1 for now.... hopefully ASIO will be part of Camtasia.
Ps. anybody else having this problem that Camtasia doesn't start recording if you use ASIO (the latest version).
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wow this is poor. on windows you are really a**ed when it comes to record ASIO streams from DAWs and i dont get it why TechSmith isnt investigating on that. there is no competitor on windows, who is able to handle ASIO and provide major editing tools for that price.

really hope there comes something in the future, if they had fixed, i am sure i created some new tutorials already, but with that it is just to much work and hassle.

Ameyah
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Camtasia is great. But this indeed frustrating. Anyhow, I am happy that it works anyhow a bit...by using some tricks.
I use Camtasia from version 5 or 6 already and ASIO...it is still not part of it. I guess, the amount of users are to little to invest in a solution.
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the majority of people using ASIO, maybe has only the pirated version, so the amount could be indeed to small.
i started with v7, im using the voxengo audio recorder now, record the audio and then import it into camtasia and sync it with the video material, it takes some time, but it works. before i used the MME audio driver, this was not going well with heavier plugins.

do you also record mic input?
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Ps. just downloaded 8.5.1 and will check it out. Maybe the error is gone.
Pity that it is still 32bit. 64bit is the future..
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I use Cubase to make tutorials of our plug-ins. With Cubase I record the voice over as audio track in Cubase. First I start-up Cubase and next Camtasia. The RME audio card can mix internal. So I mix the audio output again to the L&R audio input, which is recorded by Camtasia. This worked good until 8.1
With 8.5 I need to check it again this afternoon. The versions after 8.1 all freezed with audio, using this trick.
With Reason (our RE plug-ins) I simply record the hardware audio mixer. So it goes out the computer and back in. This I do live.
Like this last one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlRNLUX7EyM
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you got a really nice voice.

well i have an old M-Audio Audiophile here, no way to mix it internal and Ableton makes it not easier at all. but atleast it works somehow and it is stable.

you need 64bit only when you really need to use more than 3.5GB RAM, otherwise it makes no sense. but i am sure you know that as software dev anyway. 
for the future it would be nice if Camtasia would go 64bit too of course.

:)
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Thanks for the kind words. Using Neumann TLM 103 which is great on voice. Running it trough SPL Dynamaxx for some limiting. Since it was recorded live.

64bit is really a huge improvement for a computer. For sure for video editing! Weird that they don't have a 64bit version. 32bit is a dead road IMO, but some brands still need to catch up it seems. LoL

I just did try the 8.5.1 and the freezing of the audio is gone! Jippy!
I get an error after recording using Cubase and saving to disk. But that is the audio of Camtasia that likes to play the file, but not possible because of Cubase.

But cool that I can use now the latest version of Camtasia :D
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I still find this the best way to record music + narration with RME, Windows and Cubase: http://mixedupaudio.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/camtasia-cubase-totalmix-asio-drivers.html
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Matt, your intro nails it LoL :
Screencasting videos of professional DAW software like Steinberg Cubase or Avid Pro Tools is a royal pain in the arse.

Most like the idea of Phil Pendlebury is the same what I do here.
Internal mixing using the RME card and record the L and R input (channel 1+2)
But maybe he as an even better solution, so need to read it.

By thew way, if I had Cubase on a different sample rate than 44.1hz the audio was trash. Not sure if that is still the case. But I always had to keep the sample rate to 44.1khz in Cubase.

Anyhow, I am happy that 8.5.1 works now :)
Lets see what's new :D
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just mix the techniques other people found out, maybe you can end having a faster technique, when doing lots of tutorials, its nice to save the 5 minutes per video.

we can only sit and wait or maybe some other company comes around and has a better software solution? who knows.

let see indeed!
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Hi folks,

Have spent all weekend and also nearly an hour (remote access) with a member of the TechSmith Team trying to figure a workaround here.

I bought Camtasia specifically to record coursework with my Steinberg Cubase (on a Windows 7 PC [Dell]) and at the moment I can't do anything whatsoever!  Have spent time and money though to no avail.

So basically, Camtasia will not record the AUDIO of my CUBASE (vst studio).  This is because, I have come to learn, that CUBASE sends its AUDIO to the external soundcard (Steinberg CI2+) directly, bypassing the WINDOWS soundcard; hence no SYSTEM SOUND exists!  What a nightmare and I really wish I had know this before I purchased Camtasia.

I tried to call STEINBERG today but they are on half day closing.

I wondered a couple of things here regarding ROUTUING:  would ASIO4ALL work as a solution (it is a free software)?  Or there is a software (donation) called VOICE METER which a lot of people use for their tutorials (specifically the microphone)?

Thanks a lot guys and I hope someone can help me get this working soon please.

Best,

Paul Seaman
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Hi Paul. ASIO4ALL isn't really going to help. You need an interface with digital loopback -- does yours support this? -- or to create a physical loopback instead. Or you could try using a virtual audio cable of some sort. Check the link I posted a while back for using Camtasia with an RME Fireface -- that explains the loopback thing step by step.
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Thank you Matt for you reply today.

Here is the LINK to the VOICE METER software I was mentioning above.  I do have this installed but I really don't know if it will remedy the issue at hand:

http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable/index.htm

http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Voicemeeter/

Otherwise, I will have to explore some of your kind suggestions.

Kind regards,

Paul
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hey,

i am using the free Voxengo Recorder VST (http://www.voxengo.com/product/recorder/), its 32bit only(i think cubase can bridge it, if not jbridge can help) and it works really good, before i start recording my material, i sync the video with teh audio by playing a short sinewave with sharp attack and zero release and then i just sync it in camtasias editor, when i finished recording. it works ok and i can use ASIO4All this way.

this way you dont have problems with any interfaces and you can use this method where ever you are.

Kind Regards,

Ameyah
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Hi Matt,

I am just reading thru your provided LINK article.

Cheers,

Paul
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Thanks Sony Moore,

I purchased JBridge last year for using GROOVE AGENT 3 (32-bit) with CUBASE ARTIST (64-bit).  I think it cost about $15US.

Would VOXENGO work on Windows 7 (64-bit)?

Cheers,

Paul
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Hello,

Here is a reply I just received from ODEUS this morning:

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your enquiry.

Yes, we did sell the O Deus ASIO Link for 24.95 but that is now a discontinued product. ASIO Link Pro is a different product to ASIO Link and since we became O Deus Audio we dropped ASIO Link from sale due to maintenance issues

You could try searching for other options with respect to streaming ASIO as I do believe there are cheaper options.

Thank you,

The O Deus Audio Team
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Hi Sony,

Do you think that the AUDIO QUALITY from CUBASE diminishes when you IMPORT the file into CAMTASIA via VOXENGO?  And same for EXPORTING the VIDEO (with AUDIO) from CAMTASIA as an MPEG4? 

I ask because I tried a couple of other similar free softwares and I found the AUDIO suffered.

However, I am not sure if this is an issue with the BRIDGING software (VOXENGO, VOICEMEETER, ODEUS, etc) or actually with CAMTASIA itself?  I mean, should CAMTASIA retain the exact same high fidelity as the original MP3 file please?

Thanks,

Paul
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If your 'audio card' doesn't have an internal mixer, send the mix out of your hardware mixer into 'audio 1+2' input. 
This is recorded by Camtasia, these inputs. Also set your sample rate inside Cubase at 44.1khz otherwise the audio is not okay inside Camtasia.

I use RME audio card, which has 'internal mixing' and I send the mix out back into the 1+2 channel which is recorded by Camtasia.
I start up Cubase first and after this Camtasia. Lucky enough it works.

But as said, if your audio card has no 'internal mixing' options, best to use an external mixer and feed your audio back to input 1+2

I hope this helps a bit
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hey paul,

i have not noticed that the audio suffered in anyway. the recorder is just recording the internal audio of the master and saves it to the hard disk on the fly. if you are not sure you can write the support of voxengo.

with the recorder you can save a wav file with 16 bit 44.1kHz, not sure if you can go higher, because im in the library right now and dont have my Ableton here.

Regards,
Ameyah
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Should be 16bit and 44.1khz. Camtasia doesn't import 24bit audio files.
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Thanks Rob,

I will check on those RATES.

I think I have it set to 24-bit and 48kHz (from memory). 

I assume only MP3 files work within CAMTASIA and not WAV's.

Best,

Paul
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Hi Sony Moore,

I may make a little video tonight to demonstrate my current set up.  Then that should help to clarify things.

If so, where would be the best place to UPLOAD and LINK it to please?  I would rather not UPLOAD it to You Tube if possible.

If you are on ABLETON then I assume you are a musician of some form, and so you will know exactly my dilemma.

I have looked at the VOXENGO but not actually used it as yet.  I was busy eliminating a couple of other options first.  Of which, as you will see in the video I plan to make later, I have hooked up VOICE MEETER (V-B Audio) and managed to achieve a workaround of sorts.  It is providing 99% MORE than I had at the weekend (which was nothing whatsoever!  lol).

Cheers,

Paul
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I can add one thing to this, I know little about most of what your talking about.

Go with .wav files at the  44.1Hv and 16 bit , Camtasia will be good to you if you do. It struggles with some mp3's.
Mostly, variable bit audio is what you need to stay clear of.

Regards, Joe
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I work with 16bit 44.1kHz audio files (if imported). I did not try MP3 until now and it would not surprise me if it only works with wav files (16bit/44.1kHz)
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Rob,

So I think what you mean here please is:

Connect the STEINBERG CI2+ (external soundcard) via USB as you would do normally.  Then, come OUT of the CI2+ (via 2 x jack leads) and INTO my hardware mixer (Yamaha MG [something or other?]).  Then, come OUT of the Yamaha mixer (again, via 2 x jack leads) and INTO the two CI2+ INPUTS. 

Fire up CUBASE, followed by CAMTASIA.

Assumingly, the (returned) AUDIO (as described above) is what is then RECORDED by CAMTASIA?

JACKS are standard 1/4 INCH.

Cheers,

Paul
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Thanks Joe,

Ok, I have only tried IMPORTING WAV files into CAMTASIA up to now.

Ta,

Paul
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Cheers Rob,

I will will test with your kindly suggested format and rates.

Paul
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Hi,

Spent tonight trying to get everything set up and to make a couple of videos.  Ended up taking damn ages!

I think I need to go with what Rob is saying about the MIXING DESK and looping the AUDIO back into the SOUNDCARD (if that's correct).  At the moment, I can not record CUBASE and anything coming through the MIXER at the same time.  In fact, I can not even OVERDUB (narration) afterwards!  Hence the MUSIC (Cubase) only in the second video.

Here is the LINK to MyDrive (on GOOGLE) to the video folder.  Permission has been given to anyone who has this LINK:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByepppzJGXGefjhqbjdXcFNjU0Z2OUlCc01LMkNhbFJPS3YyWnBRTUVxNUdJ...

Cheers,

Paul
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Sorry Paul for a incomplete story on this subject.
Below I use for making Reason RE tutorials.

- Connect the audio output of your sound card to your mixer.
send this to a group L+R output and cut it off from going your L+R output of your hardware mixer. Otherwise you might have a audio loop / double sound.

- Connect microphone and also send this to the same group L+R output and cut it off from going to your L+R output of your hardware mixer.

- Connect the mixer group output (which collects the audio card signal and microphone) to the 'input' 1+2 of your audio card.

Boot up Cubase first and after this Camtasia. Check with the record menu (of Camtasia) if you can see the audio come in. Otherwise select Channel 1+2 in the menu of this record screen.

Use the headphone output of the audio card to monitor your audio.
It also can be done in your hardware mixer. In my hardware mixer I direct the group back to L+R output and monitor from mixer. 

Give this a try. 

Rob

Ps. 
Other option is also to record first the microphone with your voice over into Cubase as audio track and let it play. This is what I always do.


 
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I've made hundreds of tutorials over the last decade for training companies using the ASIO workaround method.

I'm uploading a movie to YouTube at present illustrating my method. It's not a perfect or ideal solution, but it works. I'll post the link as soon as it's uploaded.

Essentailly, it's this:

1 - Instantiate a plug-in called 'Tape It' into a Master Out insert.

2 - This will record your Cubase audio.

3 - Set Camtasia Recorder to only record the screen, not the audio or it will fail owing to the ASIO problem.

4 - Import the resulting silent screen recording AND Tape It recorded audio into Camtasia.

5 - Line up the audio with the screen recording. This is easy enough to do visually by looking at when your Cubase meters immediately start to register. Just place the recorded master out audio WAV at that point on the Camtasia timeline.

6 - Record you subsequent voice over whilst watching back the Camtasia project. Import the 'voice over' into Camtasia. Ensure you record the voice over at 16 bit and 44.1khz.

Job done. It's much easier than this long explanation sounds.

You'll see some examples at MUSICAL NOTES - www.musicalnotes.org.uk

Once uploaded, the YouTube link will be at: http://youtu.be/Qt3RXlY1RlI

Please try and ignore the narration - I used Text to Speech to get it done quickly.

Hope this helps speed up your workflow.

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Hi Rob,

Thanks for your time.

I am not sure if I have misunderstood your kind advice (due to my own lack of intelligence!), or if my MIXER is not very sophisticated.

So I have uploaded another little video again if you might be kind enough to check at some point please:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByepppzJGXGefkNUNk1uTUVmaXhxWWZKWVdlQWh3ZGJkMzNlVGZsTkZfckFC...

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByepppzJGXGefkNUNk1uTUVmaXhxWWZKWVdlQWh3ZGJkMzNlVGZsTkZfckFCM3hocT...

Either LINK should work (to the same video).

Best,

Paul
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Hello MS,

I appreciate your reply of today.  And for the breakdown in steps of your working procedure for the scenario in question.

So is the MUSICAL NOTES (link) your company website, and all of the videos on there (well at least the ones I 'clicked' on) uploaded to You Tube?  As I was diverted there each time I chose to view one.

I noticed (and you mention) in your You Tube video that you use, within Cubase, a different ASIO (I think it was called "SHAPHIE"?).  Is this because your soundcard does not use the YAMAHA STEINBERG driver?

Is "TAPE IT" a CUBASE plug-in please? Or is it 3rd Party and to be purchased separately?  I have just never heard of it ever before?

Do you mean you will be uploading a more in depth tutorial in the near future please?

How/where did you get the TEXT TO SPEAK?  I really like that!  Is it a part of CamTasia?

Thanks very much indeed.

Paul
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Hi again Rob,

If it is a matter of my YAMAHA MG82CX desk lacking in ROUTING, then I was looking at this model:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jul03/articles/yamahag164.asp

And there is one for sale on eBay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-mixer-MG-16-4-/221818829127?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a5...

Ta,

Paul
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Hi MS,

I found an interesting little thread on the TTS question I was asking (above).

https://feedback.techsmith.com/techsmith/topics/is-there-a-tutorial-or-documentation-on-text-to-spee...

Cheers,

Paul
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i tried the ASIO apps posted here, both where calling my sound output for the other applications like MPCHC, AIMP and browsers, i will stay with the voxengo method, it works fine for me and i am getting better and faster at lining up the audio with the video.
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Hi MonsterJazzLicks,

No 'Tape It' doesn't come as part of Cubase. It's inexpensive but, by far, a simpler method of accessing the audio coming out of Cubase than other methods I've tried over the years. I can't remember how much I paid for it. around £20 I think.

yes - MUSICAL NOTES is one of my sites. I'm always looking for new contributors If anyone fancies creating content for it.

www.musicalnotes.org.uk


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Hi MS,

Thanks for confirming that.

I only have CUBASE 8 ARTIST and so I just assumed that "TAPE IT" was only included in CUBASE 8 PRO.

I think it must be quite old though as it mentions WINDOWS 98?!

Is it 64-bit or 32 please?

Cheers,

Paul

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Hi Sony More,

I was wondering if, rather than use 64-bit CUBASE, you could INSTALL 32-bit and use it just when making screencasts for You Tube with CAMTASIA?  That would cut out JBridge (although I do already own this latter).

Ta,

Paul

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Rob,

Some extra info from the seller I just received on the eBay YAMAHA DESK as per above:


Paul, let me just a little background on the GROUP option on this mixer.

It is called "4" GROUP buses, but these is really two stereo outputs. The mixer has the main stereo 'mixed' output, and you can add channels to that output using the ST button.

It also has a single GROUP 1-2 button each channel. This allows you to select a bunch of channels (irrespective of the ST settings) and output them to the GROUP 1-2 buses. You can use the pan L-R setting to control how much of each channel goes to bus 1 or 2.

There is a separate slider to control the overall output level of the GROUP 1-2, and your can either
a) take the 1-2 output directly from a socket on the back the mixer OR
b) Feed it back into the main stereo output by pressing the TO ST button.

Snazzy desks have squillions of groups, while my mixer basically has one stereo group, which combined with the stereo main output they call '4 groups'. This is sort of true, if you use the Pan L-R control, but it's perhaps grander sounding than it is. Most channels only have one Pan L-R, so you can't select this independently for the GROUP 1-2 versus the main stereo output. Channels 9/10 and 11/12 have Pan / Balance option put the difference is limited, frankly).
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Rob,

Some extra info from the seller I just received on the eBay YAMAHA DESK as per above:


Paul, let me just a little background on the GROUP option on this mixer.

It is called "4" GROUP buses, but these is really two stereo outputs. The mixer has the main stereo 'mixed' output, and you can add channels to that output using the ST button.

It also has a single GROUP 1-2 button each channel. This allows you to select a bunch of channels (irrespective of the ST settings) and output them to the GROUP 1-2 buses. You can use the pan L-R setting to control how much of each channel goes to bus 1 or 2.

There is a separate slider to control the overall output level of the GROUP 1-2, and your can either
a) take the 1-2 output directly from a socket on the back the mixer OR
b) Feed it back into the main stereo output by pressing the TO ST button.

Snazzy desks have squillions of groups, while my mixer basically has one stereo group, which combined with the stereo main output they call '4 groups'. This is sort of true, if you use the Pan L-R control, but it's perhaps grander sounding than it is. Most channels only have one Pan L-R, so you can't select this independently for the GROUP 1-2 versus the main stereo output. Channels 9/10 and 11/12 have Pan / Balance option put the difference is limited, frankly).
Cheers.
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Not sure why it posted the above TWICE?  Nor will it let me REMOVE one of them!
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I use a Mackie 1642 VLZ3 Mixer with just a cheap Behringer USB Soundcard and not a multiple track interface so it only does one audio or two audio channels at the most. I routed the system audio back into one of my Mixer Channels so it would pick up the system audio sound but, it does not use the ASIO so I would still like to see it added in the new version of Camtasia Studio when it gets released.

On my old desktop I wish I still had a used a multi channel internal soundcard and I could record Multi-Track Channels and got great system audio. I might have to consider getting another M-Audio Internal Soundcard again if it supports the newest Windows OS. I have a computer that runs Windows 7 and one Desktop that has Windows 8.1 and will have to see if I can add a card if there is an extra slot. if not I guess a future build for me.

TechSmith can you jump in here and let us know if there might be an ASIO Feature added in the newest version ? Thanks.

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Cheers Fred,

That was interesting to hear your experience.

I am still confused as to how (on my system) I route the AUDIO.  I think it (the AUDIO) should come out of the PC via USB into the external SOUNDCARD.  Then OUT of the SOUNDCARD (via JACKS) and into 2 x CHANNELS on the Yamaha MIXER.

But then I am supposed to apply a GROUP CHANNEL routing (which I assume is the 5 x CHANNELS of AUDIO being fed into the DESK): the NORD SYNTH in STEREO, my SM58 in MONO, and the AUDIO from the PC to SOUNDCARD (ie Cubase VST studio).  I am not sure though where I should feed the 2 x JACK's from the SOUNDCARD into the DESK though (ie do they just go into 2 x regular CHANNELS on the Yamaha MIXER)?  And also, I don't think my MIXER is capable of GROUP CHANNELS, though I may be wrong. 

I spent a few hours over the past three days on it but I think I am going to have to look at other options now because I am not really getting anywhere.  So I will have a look at the software VOXENGO . . .

Ta,

Paul
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Paul I am not sure what Mixer Board you have for the make and Model but I can do some research on it if you let me know. I know it will still not do the ASIO as Camtasia Studio does not support that as of yet.

Can you explain what you are wanting to accomplish with the routing of the sound from the system audio.

I just use my Mixer to record music instruments and for my Camtasia Videos I just use the Mic and System Audio and a Channel for any sounds I want to bring in live from my Tablet or mp3 player etc. I also, record the audio coming in and out of the Mixer to a Roland R-05 Digital Recorder which puts all of my audio onto one track and I use the .wav format and edit it later if needed in Adobe Audition CC if that makes sense. Have a great day/night.
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Thanks for your response Fred,

There is a full explanation of my scenario if you might be kind enough to check back on earlier posts of last week.  I think it would take up to much real estate to copy&paste the descriptions over again.  But if it is all too long winded and convoluted for you to wade thru then I understand and no problem.  Basically, I would like to be able to record CUBASE, a MIC (for narration) and my NORD synth (the latter two having to [assumingly] be fed into an external MIXER first) all simultaneously.

The three options, as I understand it, seem to be VOXENGO, ODUES (25GBP), or via GROUP CHANNELING (on a MIXER).

Although, I had looked at a DIGITAL RECORDER (because I know these are quite popular amongst recordists/podcastists):

https://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/tascam-dr-05v2-compact-digital-recorder-and-accessories-bundle.html

. . . however, this may possibly open another can of worms and it seems a lot to spend on a device of which I would only use for one solitary task (perhaps you have other uses for the ROLAND in your field of work?).  For instance, if I was (say) a JOURNALIST, I would be able to use it for work purposes also. Personally, I would rather purchase a new DESK if I knew it would definitely solve the issue (plus I am short on CHANNELS for the 5 x synths I wish to keep permanently wired up).  

Without wishing to dwell upon the negative, this is quite infuriating when, as a customer, I have spent a considerable about of money purchasing CAMTASIA with a view to it being able to perform one single task (which it obviously can NOT do without much time and effort being spent searching for a suitable workaround)!
 
Best,

Paul
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Hi Paul,

We at O Deus Audio do still sell ASIO Link Pro and wish to point this out as this post makes it appear that we do not sell this anymore.

ASIO Link Pro is now improved with a new UI and much easier to use than it's predecessor.

Please try it today at http://odeus-audio.com.au/Odeus/AsioLinkPro
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Ok, thanks. I tried to edit this thread earlier last month but the system would not allow me to.
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Under the Radar ASIO solution?
Hey folks,
I've been up and down with the ASIO incompatibility with Camtasia.  I have a M-Audio Delta 1010LT and a desktop I custom built back in 2010 currently running WIndows 7 and Camtasia 8.6.  It had originally ran back when version 7 and then 8 release years ago.  Then like a pawn, I followed the recommendation to upgrade Camtasia and then BAM!  No more recording capacity due to the ASIO driver.

Today I just said to myself to download an install 8.6 Camtasia and test recorded a prior webinar...low and behold the program recorded with audio and video like a normal PC.   The only thing I did was tell Camtasia Recording to use Line 1/2 (M-Audio Delta 1010LT).

I will continue to test this but it's working NOW!  And until TechSmith publicly declares ASIO I will NOT UPDATE or UPGRADE. 
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Lacking ASIO drivers is hugely 'unpro' for an *AUDIO*visual application like this. But, while it's not right that you should have to rely on third-party software, you can at least use Vincent Burel's Voicemeeter to hook your ASIO applications/devices up to Camtasia.
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The only real results I got from using ASIO drivers between my DAW and Camatasia was Asio Link Pro, which I bought, and it worked well for full year until the developer died, and his license server went down. RIP.

Now, that being said, I would never advocate pirate software, but this case is special. I DID pay to use the software, So I definitely feel entitled to use a cracked version.

If you are in the same situation where you have paid for this great software, but just can't use it because of the online license server being down, I recommend looking for youtube videos from "Give Academy". Won't say more.
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I am using FL Studio ASIO(comes with FL Studio 12 i think.) in Ableton Live 9.6 and with that i can record audio direct with Camtasia 8.6 build 2054!

awsome!
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Hi,

I only use 'CUBASE 8'; and so I do not have any experience with any other DAW's such as 'Fruity Loops' etc.

Thanks,

Paul
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you dont need FL Studio as DAW, you only need their ASIO driver, this one works with Camtasia 8 ;)
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Hi,

So you mean you DOWNLOAD the 'Fruity Loops' ASIO driver, (even though you don't have 'FL'?

Cheers,

Paul
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download the demo from imageline and install it with the FL ASIO Driver selected, then you can select in the audio settings the FL ASIO driver, its a reall good one, stable enough to record atleast audio without that big lag from MME. ;)
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Hi,

So what do you use it for please?  You microphone, music, instruments?  Do you have any You Tube videos you have made with it and CamTasia please?

Ta,

Paul
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WzfF911Cnk&feature=youtu.be

So I wondered, it has been a while since I used Camtasia, 2019 rolls around and the legacy sort of glued together software might have a bug. Enter my Zoon H2 10 year old usb2 mic that uses at best the ASIO4ALL driver 2.14 now in 2019, and an older 2.03 win 8 driver for the mic itself (wasn't necessary actually). Nothing. No input at all. What is going on? Settings - Audio - input - H2 - default device? Soundforge only after playing with ASIO and in out settings, and other programs like that. Not good. Nothing from NVIDIA screen cap stuff in geforce experience... Online someone mentioned MICROPHONE PRIVACY. I thought, what is that? Now Win10 allows certain devices or none if you set it by accident to OFF. I switched allow apps (programs) to use the mic and voila. Meters in Sound settings, Camtasia, and all. So, if you read some weird thread on Camtasia or other places about "no ASIO support" it is nonsense. It is 2019 and I have a 10 year old mic and it works. It is a Windows 10 privacy setting for mics.


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I didn't know about that setting, thanks.  I don't think this addresses the original issue, however.  Camtasia does not support ASIO drivers.  In Windows the first two channels of hardware are mimed as WDM but if you had, say, an H4 you wouldn't be able to access all 4 of the inputs, only the first two.  The fact you got the mic to work in Soundforge before changing the privacy setting says a lot about the fix, and what Camtasia doesn't support that almost every other application does.
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at some point you need different software, nvidia capture engine does this, so you could get a card that does that. when you overstep a piece of average software, you need to get new hardware, software or think about recording with another device. hoping it will bend to you over years is not a savvy option. get creative. use another device, a laptop, your phone, an old extra phone, anything, maybe even software that records the audio after splitting it, one into camtasia and another into a usb 1/8" in recording option.
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Yes, we're migrating away from our hundreds of licences of Camtasia.  I'm still left to deal with content others create with audio problems as part of my job, however.
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8 years running.  Just looking for some drivers, that's all. 
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ASIO integration would be nice but it has been this many years and TechSmith has not done that yet. So, I do not think they have it in their plans. I use a PresSonus Studio 6|8 USB Interface and it has Loopback and I record my audio into a DAW and that loops back into Camtasia but that does not mean that Camtasia is using the ASIO as it has WDM. It is kind of a pain to use two software programs to complete this but I know VoiceMeter will work as a Virtual to accomplish this too.

The other option I used to use and still do occasionally is 2 USB Audio Interfaces using one for my DAW and the other one is just for Windows only. These things can get expensive so if TechSmith would consider using ASIO or having the ability in the Audio Recording to do multi-tracks live it would be great.

And last but not least when it comes to audio and setting the levels for the Camtasia PC Versions it would be nice to not have to change the record format to .avi to acces those settings. It does not allow you to change the audio settings in the options when in the .trec option. And on the Mac for the Level Meters they have a Decibel Meter which to me is nicer than having a slider that does not show that decibel level. I hope to see a huge change in the future on their audio options.
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All good ideas.  I run a separate DAW as well.  Unfortunately my role at work also requires helping others with troubleshooting audio issues with Camtasia.  In many circumstances Camstasia is simply not able to record audio properly.  It's worth pointing out my work involves recording one microphone.  One.  So ASIO isn't simply about making Camtasia into a multitrack recorder- its about function with audio hardware.  So while I can jump through hoops to make it work it doesn't scale to our organization.  I also hoped to see a huge change in audio options, 8 years ago.  :)
Cheers!
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It is incredibly old and outdated Flash based software. Flash! It just needs to not exist, but legacy use is there. It works when you set it up properly with a single ASIO driver, even drivers and win10 routing. Guaranteed. Multi-tracking? That's just something they can't do and "wish they would" should change to "wish I knew how to in other ways combined".
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Hi all who are in search of a solution.

The only real results I got from using ASIO drivers between my DAW and Camatasia was to use a product named "Asio Link Pro", which I bought some years ago, and it worked well for at least full year until the developer died, and his online license server also went down. RIP James Shields.

Now, that being said, I would never advocate pirate software, but this case is special. I DID pay to use a permanent license of the software, so I definitely feel entitled to use a cracked version. The crack version bypasses the online license server. You still need your serial number.

If you are in the same situation where you have paid for this great software, but just can't use it because of the online license server being down, I recommend looking for youtube videos from "Give Academy". Won't say more in case the gods of pirate software get on my case.

I'd invite everyone to read this thread on KVR Audio about this topic:  https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=481924

Too bad the reddit topic was also taken down. I guess reddit admins don't know what it is to shell hundreds of dollars for a piece of software, and then be told "too bad, the guy is dead". On the reddit topic, the "nephew" of the original author said he was considering bringing it back online. I have tried to reach out to the guy many times, Never got any answer back.

After all of this the guys from "give academy" took matters in their own hands. Again, I'm really not in favor of crackware. But what should we do here?  The guy is dead, and he's not going to refund me.
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It seems they were able to get it going again.
I have been using Voicemeeter for some time as well but there are some issues at times so I might see how this performs.

https://give.academy/posts/2018/03/02...