Tags in Snagit need a reworking so they are more apparent

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Once we have tagged a file in the Snagit Library, it is difficult to see in the library view, what snag has what tag other than via the view in the navigator with is often not useful as it is better suited to seeing what is already tagged with a given tag

I am suggesting viewing tags by hovering over and image or better yet a small window or space on the bottom bar that will show what tags have been assigned to a selected image. The small "tag assigner" module on the lower left is too small and keeps closing

I am not speaking of a rewrite of the tag system, just some GUI tweaks to make the tags more apparent and more useful. A good start would be a pin on the tag assigner to just keep it open whle clicking through images
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Rick Grunwald

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Joe Morgan

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Personally, I think tags are less than ideal.

There nothing more than images with file names. Stuck in a folder called tags. Instead of a standard folder.

If your so-called tags are going to have a unique names assigned to them. You're actually searching by file name, not a tag name per se. So what's the point actually?

TechSmith is basically forcing you into saving all your named/tagged captures into one folder. In a library Treeview. Identical to the now long gone feature, Folders View.

If you choose to call them tagged captures for arguments sake. Then go ahead and call them tagged captures.
But it's still one giant folder, without any subfolders. Anyway you slice it, folders view was a far more powerful and comprehensive way of getting things done.

Regards, Joe

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Sorry, but I have to disagree on your assessment of how the tags work.

In my view, tags are simply "metadata" that you get to add to an image for the purposes of classification. For example, I may have perhaps 24 images that are all part of one project. I create a tag to represent that project and associate it with all 24 images. This would then allow me to easily locate all images associated with said project.

If it's truly as you say, it would seem the Windows operating system would only ever contain a single image, because each image would require a discrete tag name, no? 

Perhaps one of the SnagIt developers will pop in here to offer some clarification on exactly how they really work?

Cheers... Rick :)
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You are correct Rick S, tags are stored in the library and only in the library, as metadata.  Windows OS is not implicated in any way
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Tags in the library are ONE WAY of getting at and organizing Snags. It is an EASY way to find things if you set it up. Not everyone uses it. If you don't, then this thread is not for you  If you DO use them, than it can be easily improved to make it more useful
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People were brining up tags in your folder view thread. I started this one so as to NOT hijack your thread but rather start a new conversation since the tagging system has nothing to do with a folder view
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Oh, so I can't compare folders view functionality & tags when they both organize images within SnagIt's Library??????????????
Just wow guys.
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This topic is all yours. Enjoy
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Good point Joe.  These things are inseparable.  There's a big ticket topic here.  Problem is, big ticket items are likely to end up in the long grass, to mix metaphors.

So many apps separate metadata from the files.  You need a library, for operational speed (you can't read the metadata from file all the times.)  But when you keep it private to the library, that's when problems start.   You see this with photo apps.  Which is why I manage my photo collection with Daminion - there's a lot that SnagIt could learn from that app.
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That's a good idea, Rick G! So you'd like improvements to tell at a glance what captures are tagged as what. I could see that as useful when scanning recent files.

Yes, as Rick S said, tags right now have been designed to help you classify captures, among other things:
  • Get back to a category of captures (e.g., "receipts", "GetSat", "home", "bugs", etc.)
  • Working on a project adding to it over time
  • Also, we've had contractors like being able to tag per company they've been doing business with.
The main advantage we saw with tagging back when it was implemented was being able to have multiple tags on a single capture. So you could take a screenshot of a receipt page after buying something and add "work expenses" and "receipts" tags onto it. Then if you need to reference your work expenses at tax time, it can be helpful. Or you can just look at all your receipts if you didn't get a package delivered and need to check on it with the order number.

Another thing that seemed interesting is the idea of nested tags:
https://bear.app/faq/Tags%20&%20Linking/Nested%20Tags/
the same advantage as tags but with a folder feel.
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That's a good idea, Rick G! So you'd like improvements to tell at a glance what captures are tagged as what. I could see that as useful when scanning recent files.

Yes, as Rick S said, tags right now have been designed to help you classify captures, among other things:
  • Get back to a category of captures (e.g., "receipts", "GetSat", "home", "bugs", etc.)
  • Working on a project adding to it over time
  • Also, we've had contractors like being able to tag per company they've been doing business with.
The main advantage we saw with tagging back when it was implemented was being able to have multiple tags on a single capture. So you could take a screenshot of a receipt page after buying something and add "work expenses" and "receipts" tags onto it. Then if you need to reference your work expenses at tax time, it can be helpful. Or you can just look at all your receipts if you didn't get a package delivered and need to check on it with the order number.

Another thing that seemed interesting is the idea of nested tags:
https://bear.app/faq/Tags%20&%20Linking/Nested%20Tags/
the same advantage as tags but with a folder feel.
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Appreciate the additional info, Chris!

Soooo, we know that the actual "datastore" is located here:
C:\Users\YourUserNameHere\AppData\Local\TechSmith\SnagIt\DataStore

How are the tags managed? Surely there is a file (or files) or maybe even a Windows Registry Key somewhere that stores the tags?

Thanks... Rick :)
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@Chris Larson, Yes, so ata a glance I can determine (for instance) what I have tagged, MIStagged or failed to tag. It should eventually  be something that could bee seen as one scrolls through the library although as I said a good simple start would be adding a pin to the tagging window to keep it open as you move around