Timeline laggy after upgrading CPU to Ryzen 2700x

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I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to improve timeline performance with my new cpu.

I recently updated from an i5 6500 to the Ryzen 2700x, and while I love the fast rendering times, I'm (so far) disappointed in the timeline performance. Editing is noticeably more laggy than with the i5 6500. Even simple cuts and transitions are choppy in a way they never were with the i5.

I'm running stock settings, 32GB 2400 ram, ASRock Taichi, Invidia 970.

I've changed nothing but the CPU, motherboard, and heatsink. I'm running on stock settings with the stock Wraith Prism cooler. Using GPU acceleration.

Does this have something to do with single core performance? I'm thinking the Ryzen should at least be on par with the 6500.

Any advice greatly appreciated!
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I'm not sure that GPU acceleration is going to gain you anything. I'd try it in software-only mode to see what difference it makes.
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Thanks bnystrom - gave it a try but didn't see any noticeable difference. If anything it was laggier.
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At least we've eliminated it as the source of the problem.

Have you checked online to see if there are any known issues with running a Ryzen 2700X with an nVidia 970?

Have you run any tests on the memory to make sure it's functioning properly?
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I haven't been able to find anyone having issues with the 2700x and the GTX970. 
Switching to Windows  "Performance Mode" didn't do anything.

Could it have something to do with how Ryzen manages clocks speed (Precision Boost 2)?

One other variable -- I switched to Camtasia 2018 at the same time. I'll install Camtasia 9 and see if that makes a difference.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but wouldn't that imply the bottleneck is my SSD?  I've only changed the motherboard and cpu. I was happy with the timeline performance of my i5 6500.
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I have surge protection. I just shut down for thunderstorms primarily.Power outages are rare where I'm at.
I work primary in Premier Pro. It auto saves my projects every 15 minuets and saves 20 versions in sequence. I would only need the lased saved version.

And would lose no more than 15 minutes of my time, if and when it happens. No big deal really.
Camtasia's default is every 2 minutes.I leave it there.

Windows is backing up all my files to an Internal hard drive Every Hour, using  File History. Which is good enough for me.

I'm intrigued by that Optane memory. I doubt my 4 year old computer would support it.
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Optane works with Core CPUs that start with a 7, 8 or 9 (such as my i7 7700s); the processor "generation" is the first digit. I think it coincides with motherboard support for M.2 NVME SSDs, as Optane memory uses the same socket. You can either run an SSD or Optane memory (with a hard drive), but not both.
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That leaves me out, I'm running a i7 4770. It was as it as it got 4 years ago.Still kicks butt compared to most.
I run a hy-bred C drive. I suppose that might create a conflict as well.

Oh well, the hybreds are 8gb's I think? Not enough anyway.

I like to have a lot of large internal HD's that don't cost a fortune.
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Bummer. The big advantage of Optane is that you can couple it with any size hard drive. I went with 2GB, as it's big enough for my personal needs and I could get the WD Black drive (high performance and reliability) in that size without spending a fortune. However, if you need more space, you can just use a bigger hard drive and the price doesn't get exponentially higher as it does with SSDs. The only downside I'm aware of is that it will only accelerate one hard drive, though I'm pretty sure that you can have more than one in the system. It doesn't matter if the drive is partitioned or not and I don't know if it works with RAID arrays.

We've probably geeked-out enough at this point that we've put everyone else to sleep.
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True, last one
I'm running Seagate Barracuda drives. Two- 2 TB drives and One-1 TB drive.
You can't beat internally powered, directly inter-connected, fan cooled drives.
For lots of reasons.

Done {:>)
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Did you use a fresh install of windows or use your drive from your intel pc on your amd build?  If you used your intel drive then you will have a load of intel only process conflicting with amd. Happend to Dometry from Hardware curnatics, fresh windows install solved it 
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Thanks for the suggestion -- I did a fresh install but didn't change anything. Still using Camtasia 9 eight months after upgrading to 2018. Frustrating.

I think the problem is related to Camtasia not playing well with Logitechc922 @1080p. I get the 'washed out' color problem when recording with Windows Camera then importing to Camtasia.

After converting the Windows Camera .mp4 file with Handbrake (following Techsmith's recommendations), the resulting file really slows down timeline performance to the point where it's unusable. Maybe I need

I used the Logitech screen cap software, which seemed to fix the problem (encoding with NVENC), but the video disappears after doing one or two edits (still present in timeline, but video is transparent).

Camtasia 9 and the Windows Camera .mp4 is much better, almost on par with the performance I was getting with the my old 6500.

Could it be an issue with lack of AMD optimization with Camtasia?
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Dean - If the problem persists after a windows re-install, FWIW, an nVidia's senior software engineer (we share a specific wood-working hobby), once told me, INTEL chips work better with nVidia GPUs and AMD CPUs better with Radeon GPUs. So westernbio can test my theory (at their expense) by swapping the 970 for an equivalent AMD product.  
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Thanks for the suggestion...will definitely consider going with the AMD when it's time to upgrade.