Update Media with same file name

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Updating an image in Camtasia into the Media Bin that has the same file name will not work?

I insert a JPG or PNG file onto the timeline and it is fine.

If I go back into Illustrator or Photoshop and edit the image, save it as the same file, then in Camtasia I right click on the image file in the Media Bin, choose Update Media, select the updated file and import, the image does not update.

If I delete the image from the Media Bin and timeline and then drag in the updated file, it will display the previous image again.
It only imports if I save the new version wit ha different file name.

Is this normal?
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I'm going with normal behaviour.
Adobe has a means of doing what you described.Its called Dynamic Linking. Its great, but is limited to working between adobe applications. Where Adobe can assert full control over functionality.

I don't know what technique you are attempting? To save the file from Photoshop using the same name?

With Camtasia open,
the same image opened in Photoshop and Camtasia.
If you apply changes in Photoshop.
Then attempt to save with the Same Name and Format.Its not going to work.
You'll get this warning/refusal.


If you were to save to a different location, same name.No Problem.
Same Location, same name, different format. No Problem.
Directing Camtasia to the New File.

If you were to close Camtasia, save the image from Photoshop "Same name,Location,etc". Camtasia would link to the updated image when reopening the project.

This is what Dynamic Linking was created for, if I hit save in Photoshop. The image in Premiere Pro will update without clicking anything else, including the image on the timeline.

If TechSmith wanted to, they could probably do the same with SnagIt.

Regards,Joe
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I dont get that warning when saving from Photoshop or Illustrator. So closing and reopening Camtasia might load the latest updated image. Would be great if using the Update Media option would load the latest version though.
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I can save changes without actually saving the file to my computer. No pop up warnings for that.

If a file is currently open in Camtasia, and you try to "Save As" to the original image, its not going to happen.
The only changes saved will be within Photoshop.
If you close Photoshop without  saving the file to computer, the original image will remain intact.
Unless your running some new version of windows or feature I've never heard of?
I think you'll find what I stated or intended to state, is accurate.
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Joe's suggestions are valid

what Camtasia version?

when a project is open, using update media will only update the file path reference in project file

in Camtasia 2019, best practice is to delete the original image completely from project, then re-import it

perhaps test using a landscape image [before] vs. a portrait image [after]

update media cannot handle this scenario; otherwise, if the updated image is a different size/aspect from the original,  image scaling can become distorted



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I just ran a test using Camtasia v8.6 -- created a timeline, inserted a PNG graphics image, saved, closed, edited the image and saved with the same name, re-opened Camtasia and opened the timeline.  The updated image did, in fact, appear.
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yea; that approached worked great up through Camtasia 2018, at least before the end of this past August

I've used it hundreds of times, over many years, to bulk-replace photos in slide show projects [on hundreds of photos at a time]

but 2019 has a different engine for handling media and scaling in such "replacement" workflows, one that is very touchy in a number of ways

keeping it simple ... 2019 scales media differently than 2018 and earlier versions; and the "swap-on-disk" method can have unexpected consequences if the replacements are of a different size and/or aspect than the ones used to originally populate the project
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this is a very complex issue

although 2018 used to handle it correctly, its media scaling behaviors change, mysteriously, at the end of August; so did Camtasia 9's ????

before that point in time, both behaved like Camtasia 8 re replacing media using swap-on-disk; I have not been able to determine what changed the behavior of these 2 installed apps?

I documented the issue with 2019 in a tutorial that I made mostly for internal documentation purposes

if interested ...

How To Edit Photo Viewer Project While Mitigating Camtasia 2019 Scaling And Sharpness Issues 2019-09-18
https://www.screencast.com/t/rAGAWAcbo



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Mysteriously, at the end of August; so did Camtasia 9's ????

Sounds like a windows operating system update.
Or a system driver issue.

Camtasia 9 hasn't been updated in any way shape or form since May of 2019, and that had nothing to do with standard program functionality.Corruption in 9 makes little sense to me.

I don't know if the smart-player receives automatic updates for older versions? I'm thinking that sounds unlikely.I don't envision the smart-player infecting project files if it did.

You could look up Windows update history.See if something obvious pops up.

 
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thanks for the suggestions

Windows update was considered, and dismissed; all drivers are OK; nothing to do with smart player [editor, not production]; the behavior suggests a "silent" app coding change

tech support did not dispute my findings

my Camtasia 9 and 2018 both definitely changed behaviors related to how Camtasia scales media associated with swap on disk scenarios; I had been using all 3 versions extensively to work on photo-based projects; I noticed the change immediately, as it was so dramatic and adversely affected by work; had to completely change my approach to the job

we worked the issue for many weeks; no resolution