WHY OH WHY do we not have a basic high pass filter in the audio controls?!?

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Users have been asking for basic audio EQ controls for years and TechSmith continues to ignore their requests. The fact that we need to export our audio in order to apply a basic high pass filter to remove plosives is beyond annoying. The fact that there isn't a basic 3 band eq situated on eq points that most dialog editors use (low-125Hz, mid-1.8kHz, high-8kHz) is plain lazy from an engineering point of view. You went to the trouble of providing a noise removal and compression plugin, but no EQ controls that address most of your users' needs for dialog/VO editing. Time to up your game!
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One, could not agree more with OP, in that exporting audio to a third-party audio editor/DAW is a pain in the rear. 

Two, my experience with audio editing is Audacity (some), Reaper (quite a bit) and Audition (getting more and more). In those programs, you're allowed a greater flexibility to zoom in on audio to apply equalization or compression. 

I get that TechSmith is a visuals company, and I dunno if they'll ever want to step outside that wheelhouse to make a standalone App, but to me the quality of a video's audio narration is a make-or-break factor in judging video.

I do hope we'll see improvements to Camtasia and beyond when it comes to audio. 
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One of the nice things about Camtasia is its simplicity, but it can also be its Achilles' heel sometimes, and this is probably the biggest case in point, even more so than the limitation to 30 fps & 60 fps, which half the world doesn't use.

While I understand that Camtasia's prime market is those who create AV packages for education & training, the fact is that a lot of us don't use it for that at all. In fact, I didn't even know that was Camtasia's primary purpose, until after I joined this forum!

Camtasia's other use - by quite a few of us - is as a video editor that is so much more approachable to use than Adobe Premiere - the latter undoubtedly having the most unfriendly user interface of any video editor I've ever seen, not to mention a rip-off pricing system that you are forced into - neither of which apply to Camtasia, hence its appeal.

That brings us back to the balance of simplicity versus features. Sound control & manipulation tends to be rather important when producing videos and, even if some people are solely using Camtasia to make AV packages for training/education, the sound still matters!

I totally agree that there should be more in the way of sound control & manipulation, and that having to export to Audacity - even though it's a good program - is still a pain in the rear, that most people would prefer not to need to do.

The thing is that TechSmith do have competition, and they're really running the risk of losing future business. I've personally just downloaded DaVinci and, if the interface is as nice as Camtasia's, I may well switch to it, and just use Camtasia when I need a screen recording, which I would then export, to edit elsewhere. Why might I do that? Because DaVinci has a full recording studio's worth of sound controls! Plus, like TechSmith, they don't do forced cloud subscriptions.

So, I support calls for much improved sound controls, and would also ask for the resolution of the intermittent application standard of the noise reduction between clips, if that hasn't already been addressed yet.
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My first question: Do people actually use Camtasia as their frontline external audio recorder? That's madness! I'll use their audio recorder for system sound or fast screen recorders that are going to a very small audience that doesn't care about the quality. 

I suppose a basic high-pass or notch filter would be a nice inclusion but not if it comes at the expense of the development of Camtasia's visual features and editor. Maybe I'm just used to using a suite of applications to do design work because I honestly don't think of it as being such a hassle.  Then again, I'm doing all my audio editing before I bring the WAV into Camtasia so I don't have to export/re-import. 

My go-to analogy for Camtasia is that it's like a multitool or a pocketknife. It can complete a wide range of jobs if used correctly. But...sometimes you need more. Camtasia's audio recorder is on the same level as the screw driver in a pocket knife. It can do small, simple jobs like basic fade-ins and fade-outs, and volume control, but before you remodel the kitchen, you should probably just accept you'll need to invest in a decent power drill haha

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@dmey503 wrote:
My go-to analogy for Camtasia is that it's like a multitool or a pocketknife. It can complete a wide range of jobs if used correctly. But...sometimes you need more. Camtasia's audio recorder is on the same level as the screw driver in a pocket knife.
Perfect analogy. I have Adobe Creative Cloud, and while Photoshop gets a lot of use, Premiere and AfterEffects sit there unused until I need: 
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One of the issues I continually miss i--at the minimum -- is better display of the recording audio.  The audio controls are so basic -- with no feedback, for example if the audio is hitting a hot level.  Perhaps many people don't care, but there should be an advanced audio toggle feature where users who care greatly about audio can see a real software audio mixer -- such as in most video editing platforms.  It should be repetitively easy to add -- and, as I suggest, could be toggled by an Expert mode for audio.

Hope this makes it into the next version.

Best
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@Rowby,
At least we can see the waveform smash into the upper limit of the timeline display. It's only a crude proxy for hot level, but it's better than nothing!

Meanwhile it's out to Audacity or Audition for real audio editing.
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Hi Dave,

Can you do a screen capture where you are seeing the Waveform in the timeline display.  I can't seem to located it.  I'm sure it's staring right at me.

Thanks
Rowby
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Here you go, with a peak shown: 
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Ah Ok Thanks-- that's good but not great.

also, When recording Camtasia using the Narration feature it would be good to have a more traditional mixer display.

And I see no reason why the Camtasia record module has to be so small and compact, so that there is no room on it for a more traditional mixer display.

It can be bigger and have a more useful audio display other than that tiny arrow slider. It's really hard if not impossible to fine tune.

Again the most basic Audio meter with red peak, etc would really be helpful. And at least two channel, please :)

But of course I am preaching to the Choir. Everyone here seems to be listening and wanting it -- except the developers of Camtasia. Let's hope they fix this in the next update.

Rowby
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